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Labor rates....RIPOFF
#1
JDgreen
JDgreen
#2
Bison
Bison
You think that is bad?
Got me a concrete slab poured in my new shop.
Costed me 4 grand for 18 hrs labor,1/2 that was waiting for the crete to cure so they(he) could power trowel it. Fella had 2 kids with him to help wheel the concrete in and only one power trowel.
About 10 hrs honest work....$400 an hr
Got me a concrete slab poured in my new shop.
Costed me 4 grand for 18 hrs labor,1/2 that was waiting for the crete to cure so they(he) could power trowel it. Fella had 2 kids with him to help wheel the concrete in and only one power trowel.
About 10 hrs honest work....$400 an hr
#3
Bison
Bison
#4
JDgreen
Did the guy give you a bid on the entire job he did before you hired him? FOUR GRAND....!!! JUST FOR LABOR???? How big an area did he do? If you were using a 4 inch thickness, each 3 foot by 3 foot area would have cost you about $12 for the concrete.....at most. Here, locally, a square yard delivered costs about $130-$150 depending on load size.
JDgreen
You think that is bad?
Got me a concrete slab poured in my new shop.
Costed me 4 grand for 18 hrs labor,1/2 that was waiting for the crete to cure so they(he) could power trowel it. Fella had 2 kids with him to help wheel the concrete in and only one power trowel.
About 10 hrs honest work....$400 an hr
Did the guy give you a bid on the entire job he did before you hired him? FOUR GRAND....!!! JUST FOR LABOR???? How big an area did he do? If you were using a 4 inch thickness, each 3 foot by 3 foot area would have cost you about $12 for the concrete.....at most. Here, locally, a square yard delivered costs about $130-$150 depending on load size.
#6
JDgreen
JDgreen
#7
Bison
Yes he did, he quoted me $1.50 a sq ft, shop is 3000 sq ft so it's supposed to be a deal for 4 grand.
I know nuttin about laying a concrete floor and needed level and slope to drains, so i had it done.
Two other concrete contractors quoted me $ 2.30 and 2.50 per ft respectively(labor only).
The concrete was not included and is here about $200 per cubic yard delivered.
The slab avereges 7.5 inch thick
Never mind the dollar,its close to par anyway, at that time the Canadian dollar was higher than the US dollar
I sure felt like i've been" had" after the sucker was done and i actually seen how much work it took
Bison
Yes he did, he quoted me $1.50 a sq ft, shop is 3000 sq ft so it's supposed to be a deal for 4 grand.
I know nuttin about laying a concrete floor and needed level and slope to drains, so i had it done.
Two other concrete contractors quoted me $ 2.30 and 2.50 per ft respectively(labor only).
The concrete was not included and is here about $200 per cubic yard delivered.
The slab avereges 7.5 inch thick
Never mind the dollar,its close to par anyway, at that time the Canadian dollar was higher than the US dollar
I sure felt like i've been" had" after the sucker was done and i actually seen how much work it took
#8
JDgreen
I have done a LOT of concrete slab and flat work, last job I worked on we had six guys doing a 5 inch thick, 18X40 basement slab here, I don't know HTF ANYBODY could do a pour four times the size we did with only two helpers. We didn't use a power trowler, but from starting the pour to the time we got done took us about five hours at most. Not sure how much work the guy did, whether he tamped the base, laid out the screeding frames, what kind of float(s) he used, or even how much of the entire job he did at one time. My calcuations say 70 yards total at 7.5 inches.
JDgreen
Yes he did, he quoted me $1.50 a sq ft, shop is 3000 sq ft so it's supposed to be a deal for 4 grand.
I know nuttin about laying a concrete floor and needed level and slope to drains, so i had it done.
Two other concrete contractors quoted me $ 2.30 and 2.50 per ft respectively(labor only).
The concrete was not included and is here about $200 per cubic yard delivered.
The slab avereges 7.5 inch thick
Never mind the dollar,its close to par anyway, at that time the Canadian dollar was higher than the US dollar
I sure felt like i've been" had" after the sucker was done and i actually seen how much work it took
I have done a LOT of concrete slab and flat work, last job I worked on we had six guys doing a 5 inch thick, 18X40 basement slab here, I don't know HTF ANYBODY could do a pour four times the size we did with only two helpers. We didn't use a power trowler, but from starting the pour to the time we got done took us about five hours at most. Not sure how much work the guy did, whether he tamped the base, laid out the screeding frames, what kind of float(s) he used, or even how much of the entire job he did at one time. My calcuations say 70 yards total at 7.5 inches.
#9
Bison
,...and mebbe we Canadian are tougher than Yankees and can work harder :tongue:
There was an existing old uneven concrete slab as base(there used to be a hogbarn there before),the rebar work was in place allready(i did that)No screeding frames where used,just a couple pegs here and there as referance for the hight.
He used a 2x4 as screed and eyeballed most of it.one guy used a 5' wide float on a 15' pole to level it off on the go.
The old fart obviously knew what he was doing as he pointed exactly where he wanted a wheel barrow dumped without having to add or take away from any location.
The whole slab was poured without use of a shovel,just 1 garden rake was used.
The floor came out pretty decent with the floor topography as i wanted.
Concrete is sold here in Cubic meters,....yeah i know it don't make sense if everything else is still done in feet and inches(that's Effed Up guv-ment for ye),it took 51 cubic meter.
Bison
I said he had two helpers with him,i didn't tell ye my brother and me helped wheel the concrete in :wink:
,...and mebbe we Canadian are tougher than Yankees and can work harder :tongue:
There was an existing old uneven concrete slab as base(there used to be a hogbarn there before),the rebar work was in place allready(i did that)No screeding frames where used,just a couple pegs here and there as referance for the hight.
He used a 2x4 as screed and eyeballed most of it.one guy used a 5' wide float on a 15' pole to level it off on the go.
The old fart obviously knew what he was doing as he pointed exactly where he wanted a wheel barrow dumped without having to add or take away from any location.
The whole slab was poured without use of a shovel,just 1 garden rake was used.
The floor came out pretty decent with the floor topography as i wanted.
Concrete is sold here in Cubic meters,....yeah i know it don't make sense if everything else is still done in feet and inches(that's Effed Up guv-ment for ye
),it took 51 cubic meter.Attachments
#10
JDgreen
Looks really, good, that is very thick for a floor...BTW, 51 cubic meters calculates out to 67 cubic yards so I was close. I agree with you that $4000 for the work was a ripoff, I have never priced concrete flat work myself but have a hard time understanding why other contractors would have charged more for the same work. We poured our addition floor in two 18X40 sections, one at a time, it cost me lunch, drinks, and a $40 cash payment to my two nephews each time for their help. My brothers and brothers in law owed me the help.
JDgreen
I said he had two helpers with him,i didn't tell ye my brother and me helped wheel the concrete in :wink:
,...and mebbe we Canadian are tougher than Yankees and can work harder :tongue:
There was an existing old uneven concrete slab as base(there used to be a hogbarn there before),the rebar work was in place allready(i did that)No screeding frames where used,just a couple pegs here and there as referance for the hight.
He used a 2x4 as screed and eyeballed most of it.one guy used a 5' wide float on a 15' pole to level it off on the go.
The old fart obviously knew what he was doing as he pointed exactly where he wanted a wheel barrow dumped without having to add or take away from any location.
The whole slab was poured without use of a shovel,just 1 garden rake was used.
The floor came out pretty decent with the floor topography as i wanted.
Concrete is sold here in Cubic meters,....yeah i know it don't make sense if everything else is still done in feet and inches(that's Effed Up guv-ment for ye
Looks really, good, that is very thick for a floor...BTW, 51 cubic meters calculates out to 67 cubic yards so I was close. I agree with you that $4000 for the work was a ripoff, I have never priced concrete flat work myself but have a hard time understanding why other contractors would have charged more for the same work. We poured our addition floor in two 18X40 sections, one at a time, it cost me lunch, drinks, and a $40 cash payment to my two nephews each time for their help. My brothers and brothers in law owed me the help.
#11
Bison
How about the fact there's only 3 contractors in the area and all of them are really busy and greedy and people pay what they want
Bison
How about the fact there's only 3 contractors in the area and all of them are really busy and greedy and people pay what they want
#12
wjjones
wjjones
#13
JDgreen
Hard to believe there are just three contractors willing to do it, concrete flat work requires very little in the way of skill, just common sense and a willingness to show up on time... costs maybe $300 for tools, and you need to be willing to do dirty work and hard labor...perhaps the license to do such work in your area is hard to obtain.
JDgreen
How about the fact there's only 3 contractors in the area and all of them are really busy and greedy and people pay what they want
Hard to believe there are just three contractors willing to do it, concrete flat work requires very little in the way of skill, just common sense and a willingness to show up on time... costs maybe $300 for tools, and you need to be willing to do dirty work and hard labor...perhaps the license to do such work in your area is hard to obtain.
#14
JDgreen
JDgreen
#15
Bison
AFAIAC One don't need a licence to do anything,a licence is something other people wants you to have so they can charge one
Bison
One don't need a licence to pour concrete around here.
AFAIAC One don't need a licence to do anything,a licence is something other people wants you to have so they can charge one