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Knock-off oil filters
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StarTech
StarTech
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Skippydiesel
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Skippydiesel
Thoughts On The Matter:
Problem with filters (especially the spin-on/enclosed kind) is that the end user (us) do not have the equipment, technical expertees to make an informed judgement as to how effective the filter is.
As others have noted, where the filter is made has little bearing on its quality (quality, in this instance, being how well it filters, while allowing good fuel/air/oil flow).
Standards met and the availability of specifications, is your best method for determining quality. Unfortunatly such information can be hard to find or completely absent.
A further angst for the consumer is that your filter supplier may, without notice, change manufacture - the filter costs & looks the same but does it meet the same standards????
Flow Restriction;
This is not such a big deal for fuel & air ie little if any damage will result and the effects should be obvious to the machine operator. Oil filtration is another matter - The effect of restricted oil flow could be catastrophic. If you are operating a sophisticated machine you may have gauges that show oil temperature/pressure and or warning lights, so timely intervention may save your engine. Most of us don't have this level of sophistication, so the first sign of restricted oil flow, may be overheating or even a seized engine.
Ineffective Filtration;
Probably not a serious problem for oil & fuel. An air filter that is not doing its job could quickly lead to a "dusted" engine. Damaged rings & bore may result in costly repairs/replacement.
In summary;
Purchase filters from well known brands, who likly value their reputation.
Fuel filters - If possible use gauze filters that can be inspected and/or serviced - check regularly. Filter fuel into tank.
Air filters - Check regularly for contamination build up. Service/Replace as needed (not necessarily at set intervals)
Oil filters - Do your best. Replace at recommended intervals.
Problem with filters (especially the spin-on/enclosed kind) is that the end user (us) do not have the equipment, technical expertees to make an informed judgement as to how effective the filter is.
As others have noted, where the filter is made has little bearing on its quality (quality, in this instance, being how well it filters, while allowing good fuel/air/oil flow).
Standards met and the availability of specifications, is your best method for determining quality. Unfortunatly such information can be hard to find or completely absent.
A further angst for the consumer is that your filter supplier may, without notice, change manufacture - the filter costs & looks the same but does it meet the same standards????
Flow Restriction;
This is not such a big deal for fuel & air ie little if any damage will result and the effects should be obvious to the machine operator. Oil filtration is another matter - The effect of restricted oil flow could be catastrophic. If you are operating a sophisticated machine you may have gauges that show oil temperature/pressure and or warning lights, so timely intervention may save your engine. Most of us don't have this level of sophistication, so the first sign of restricted oil flow, may be overheating or even a seized engine.
Ineffective Filtration;
Probably not a serious problem for oil & fuel. An air filter that is not doing its job could quickly lead to a "dusted" engine. Damaged rings & bore may result in costly repairs/replacement.
In summary;
Purchase filters from well known brands, who likly value their reputation.
Fuel filters - If possible use gauze filters that can be inspected and/or serviced - check regularly. Filter fuel into tank.
Air filters - Check regularly for contamination build up. Service/Replace as needed (not necessarily at set intervals)
Oil filters - Do your best. Replace at recommended intervals.
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Tiger Small Engine
Tiger Small Engine
An oil filter is a good example of quality of product, price, and where it is made. I use Briggs and Stratton oil filters that are bought in bulk. Are these made in USA or China? Many parts these days are made in China and the quality has greatly improved over the years. I would obviously rather buy American products, however, not as much is made here, and the price is often not competitive.Thoughts On The Matter:
Problem with filters (especially the spin-on/enclosed kind) is that the end user (us) do not have the equipment, technical expertees to make an informed judgement as to how effective the filter is.
As others have noted, where the filter is made has little bearing on its quality (quality, in this instance, being how well it filters, while allowing good fuel/air/oil flow).
Standards met and the availability of specifications, is your best method for determining quality. Unfortunatly such information can be hard to find or completely absent.
A further angst for the consumer is that your filter supplier may, without notice, change manufacture - the filter costs & looks the same but does it meet the same standards????
Flow Restriction;
This is not such a big deal for fuel & air ie little if any damage will result and the effects should be obvious to the machine operator. Oil filtration is another matter - The effect of restricted oil flow could be catastrophic. If you are operating a sophisticated machine you may have gauges that show oil temperature/pressure and or warning lights, so timely intervention may save your engine. Most of us don't have this level of sophistication, so the first sign of restricted oil flow, may be overheating or even a seized engine.
Ineffective Filtration;
Probably not a serious problem for oil & fuel. An air filter that is not doing its job could quickly lead to a "dusted" engine. Damaged rings & bore may result in costly repairs/replacement.
In summary;
Purchase filters from well known brands, who likly value their reputation.
Fuel filters - If possible use gauze filters that can be inspected and/or serviced - check regularly. Filter fuel into tank.
Air filters - Check regularly for contamination build up. Service/Replace as needed (not necessarily at set intervals)
Oil filters - Do your best. Replace at recommended intervals.
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Skippydiesel
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Skippydiesel
No offence intended Tiger but your logic is wanting.
Oil (all engine) filters are made all over the developed World, to engine maker specifications, branded (ie painted, serial number, etc) according to the contract (Engine maker, Filter Supply Company, etc). Price & adherence to design specifications being the primary factors.This is the nature of a competitive, open economy - no national allegiance.
B&S most likly source their filters from many suppliers.
As I said earlier - purchasing from a known, reputable brand is your best bet, in the hope that the owner of the Brand (B&S) will value their reputation, so go the extra mile in quality control.
Oil (all engine) filters are made all over the developed World, to engine maker specifications, branded (ie painted, serial number, etc) according to the contract (Engine maker, Filter Supply Company, etc). Price & adherence to design specifications being the primary factors.This is the nature of a competitive, open economy - no national allegiance.
B&S most likly source their filters from many suppliers.
As I said earlier - purchasing from a known, reputable brand is your best bet, in the hope that the owner of the Brand (B&S) will value their reputation, so go the extra mile in quality control.
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grumpyunk
grumpyunk
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Scrubcadet10
Scrubcadet10
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ILENGINE
ILENGINE
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StarTech
StarTech
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RevB
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RevB
Bet the "original" is made in China too.
Show us the lab reports that tells us this is true.
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Scrubcadet10
Scrubcadet10
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MParr
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MParr
Lab reports?Bet the "original" is made in China too.
Show us the lab reports that tells us this is true.
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kbowley
kbowley
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Skippydiesel
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Skippydiesel
The only bad oil filter is one that overly restricts/stops the oil flow. Even an empty canister will not heart your engine for the duration of a service period.
Will my oil filter;
Remove contaminants - The only way to know this for sure, is by third party empirical testing. When did you see an oil filter with this sort of technical information on the box???
Non return valve (if required) work. Take apart the old filter of the same brand/part number - does it have a functional non return mechanism.
Will my oil filter;
Remove contaminants - The only way to know this for sure, is by third party empirical testing. When did you see an oil filter with this sort of technical information on the box???
Non return valve (if required) work. Take apart the old filter of the same brand/part number - does it have a functional non return mechanism.
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kbowley
kbowley
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kbowley
kbowley
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Skippydiesel
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Skippydiesel
"I hate China for its human rights issues, slave and forced labor, aggressiveness, dumping plastics into the open oceans, unfettered environmental issues, and dumping junk into our markets at a loss to undercut US manufacturers."
Wow!
Do you realise, that what you "hate" is, in a broad sense, pretty much what every "great power" (including the USA) has done/is doing, since at least the the Roman Empire, if not before????
I do not support/condone this behaviour, just suggest that its not exclusive to the Chinese
Wow!
Do you realise, that what you "hate" is, in a broad sense, pretty much what every "great power" (including the USA) has done/is doing, since at least the the Roman Empire, if not before????
I do not support/condone this behaviour, just suggest that its not exclusive to the Chinese
#43
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Skippydiesel
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Skippydiesel
To be able to make an informed decision about the performance of a filter, the following link gives you the idea of what may be involved;
www.kitplanes.com
Anything less is just speculation
Oil Filter Testing - KITPLANES
Some aviation oil filters fall short of efficiency standards, but still protect engines—barely. Understand what yours really does.
www.kitplanes.com