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JCPENNEY lawnmower

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V

vito_corleone021

Wondering if anybody would have info and or value of the JCPENNEY model I have. Had a guy respond to me when I was trying to sell it on Craigslist telling me it could be a rare model ...this was his email to me
Good Evening,

I saw your ad and had to respond. You might have a rare mower on your hands....
I'm a older lawn-boy mower enthusiast and I have never seen that deck and engine combination before.The deck, wheels, handle and rear bagger is all lawn-boy. Late 1970's-early 80's Mulch-R-Catch. Lawn-boy and JCPenney did collaborate during this time period. I've seen many Lawn-boy/JCPenney stagger deck 2 cycles. I have never seen the 4-square rear bagger deck with the briggs. I did a quick google search and found a newer model of this mower. I hope this helps and gives you some topics to google. There is a lawn-boy mower forum out there and you might want to consider putting this one of ebay for a larger viewing source. But then again it is a 40 year old stamped steel deck with a briggs classic engine push mower.

Any help would be greatly appreciated ....attached a few pics 338B159B-A966-4D7C-A02E-028F097FBFB5.jpeg9A5AE965-0728-497C-9C1D-4AA202BD90EC.jpeg8494F77C-8969-4B39-877D-C0A255AFA049.jpeg


#2

tom3

tom3

The main attraction of the classic Lawn Boy mowers was/is the lightweight mower and the powerful two stroke engine. The staggered wheel vs four square is a debate with no winner. But your mower is, to me, a pretty generic run of the mill mower that has no special value. It is a nice looking mower, looks to be well maintained and has the good bagger setup. I'd ask $100 and be open to offers.


#3

J

jp1961

Hello,

Hmmm. What is the model number of the mower? I've never seen a Briggs engine on an older Lawn-Boy until now. It could be legit, or somebody may have slapped a newer (Classic Briggs) engine on an older deck. The 2 cycle JC Penny mower had it's name on the plastic shroud.


#4

dwross

dwross

A little background. Check the Model/SN plate, you should see Galesburg, IL, my hometown. The Lawn-Boy mowers were manufactured by Gale Products, a division of Outboard Marine Corporation. My neighbor worked in Quality Control at the factory. They had test sites in different areas of the U.S. Once tested, the mowers were returned to the factory for tear down and inspection by quality control. In 1978-79, I purchased one of the tested mowers once reassembled with a new engine. It happened to be a JCPenney version, Model 8310 self-propelled. At the same time I got the service manual used by Lawn-Boy servicing dealers. The opening section detailed the history of powered mowers, particularly the Lawn-Boy. The manual covers service details of every Lawn-Boy up to 1978-79. Shortly after I bought the mower, my neighbor brought me a newly available attachment. It happened to be a rear bag upgrade kit. It is the same as shown on your photos. I have tried, but have never found a part number for the bag or the upgrade kit.

In regard to the Briggs & Stratton, I do not believe that engine was factory installed. My manual does not list any B&S engines, only Lawn-Boy manufactured 2-cycle engines. FYI, I was told by a good source that they were attempting to develop a rotary, Wankel type engine.

I am still using the same mover today. Fifteen years ago I move from Galesburg to the Denver area. I assumed I would need to adjust the carburetor because of the 5,000 foot elevation change. It worked fine without adjustment. I have maintained this mower myself over its 40 plus years. There are many parts no longer available from Toro, current owner of Lawn-Boy. Some of those parts are critical. I am hoping this mower last a few more years.

I hope I have enlightened you about your mower. If you can, I would like to know the model and serial number of your mower.


#5

dwross

dwross

I will correct myself about the above post. In the late 80's after OMC lost or sold off Lawn-Boy changes were made. B&S engines were used, I assume the government probably forbid 2-cycle engines by that time. Around that same time or later, Toro dropped the staggered wheel design.

Pardon my misinformation,

D


#6

upupandaway

upupandaway

I've never seen a Briggs engine on an older Lawn-Boy until now.

Yeah, someone in my area put a honda motor on a old(er) school LB deck. It is listed in CL for sale. I thought the LB motor had different mount holes but i guess the person could have just drilled new holes if so.


#7

dwross

dwross

I have discovered since the above correction that Lawn-Boy made a few models in the early 80's while they were still manufactured in Galesburg, IL by Gale Products, a Division of OM

Except for Vito's photos, I have never seen B&S engine on a Lawn-Boy.

D Ross


#8

tom3

tom3

I wonder how the mower model and SN numbers would relate to the Briggs model, type, and code numbers? Might help determine if that engine actually came on the mower.


#9

upupandaway

upupandaway

in Galesburg, IL by Gale Products, a Division of OM
Out of curiousity, where was the LB factory in Galesburg?


#10

R

Rivets

FYI. Lawn Boy was using B&S engines during these years. 1961, 1967-76, 1991-92. If the OP would provide us with the model and serial numbers for the mower and model, type and code numbers for the engine, I would be able to see if they match.


#11

dwross

dwross

The short answer us the Southwest edge of Galesburg, just North of Monmouth Blvd and West of McClure St. It is


#12

dwross

dwross

Let me continue. It was an industrial area. Just West of Gale Product, Div of OMC (Lawn-Boy factory) was Maytag's refrigerator factory and a huge Maytag regional Maytag distribution center for all of their products. I am doing some research, I know the nature of the current occupant of the L-B facility but I cannot remember its name. I moved from Galesburg in late 2004.

I will report more later.

D Ross


#13

dwross

dwross

Rivets,

You are correct, I saw that same information in the 1950-1988 service manual. I don't know if it is possible to find the number of B&S powered mowers that were produced. My guess there were not many. By the 90's Lawn-Boy had been moved to Mississippi. During the earlier years, 1961 and 1967-76, I never saw one or heard mention of their use. It was not until I saw the picture on this forum that I thought it was a possibility. Even then I thought some private person had attached a B&S engine to a deck that had the L-B engine removed.

My current mower is a 1978 model 8310 which I got directly from the factory in Galesburg, IL. At the same time I was given a shop service manual that covered all models and engines through 1978. The manual did not include any mention of a B&S engine or any service information.

As an aside, in the early 80's I had a brief conversation with the head of quality control at Gale Products. He told me they were experimenting with Wankel engine. Apparently nothing came of that, but it tells me they were looking at options other than 2-cycle engines. I assume there was concern about pollution and maybe future EPA regulations. I don't know if the 2-cycle mower engine went away voluntary or if it was forced.

dwoss


#14

Mow'N Weeds

Mow'N Weeds

Yeah, someone in my area put a honda motor on a old(er) school LB deck. It is listed in CL for sale. I thought the LB motor had different mount holes but i guess the person could have just drilled new holes if so.
I picked up this one a few summers back. It was some old guy's thrown together attempt. He had passed away and a family member was selling it. It doesn't quite work as-is. Motor works fine though. Just not so well with the offset deck and RWD. Trans issues. It's pretty much a parts rig now.

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Sanjin Crescent Tail

Sanjin Crescent Tail

Wondering if anybody would have info and or value of the JCPENNEY model I have. Had a guy respond to me when I was trying to sell it on Craigslist telling me it could be a rare model ...this was his email to me
Good Evening,

I saw your ad and had to respond. You might have a rare mower on your hands....
I'm a older lawn-boy mower enthusiast and I have never seen that deck and engine combination before.The deck, wheels, handle and rear bagger is all lawn-boy. Late 1970's-early 80's Mulch-R-Catch. Lawn-boy and JCPenney did collaborate during this time period. I've seen many Lawn-boy/JCPenney stagger deck 2 cycles. I have never seen the 4-square rear bagger deck with the briggs. I did a quick google search and found a newer model of this mower. I hope this helps and gives you some topics to google. There is a lawn-boy mower forum out there and you might want to consider putting this one of ebay for a larger viewing source. But then again it is a 40 year old stamped steel deck with a briggs classic engine push mower.

Any help would be greatly appreciated ....attached a few pics View attachment 51200View attachment 51201View attachment 51204
That is the 8671AE just with a briggs engine, my model is 1982 with an F engineIMG_20210603_133837_207.jpg


#16

dougmacm

dougmacm

Looking through my model number list, Lawn-Boy did make a J.C. Penney 21" Steel deck pusher Mulch-R-Catch with B&S in the early 80's:

1982 Model # 0293 (w/ B&S # 110908-0542-02)
1983 Model # 0295 (w/ B&S # 110902-1180-01)

If anyone wants a copy of this Excel Lawn-Boy model number spreadsheet, send me a message with your email address.

Doug


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