Well, i guess it is time to pull the engine a 3rd time... after getting a new governor gear assy, gasket and gov seal. i checked and rechecked everything i can see with the governor... put the sump back on, set governor , held at full throttle with a cheater wire, turned shaft clockwise till it stopped... tightened nut on governor arm...put the engine back in, still FULL throttle, no governor control whatsoever, i even took off the idle speed spring... no help.... this is getting to the end of my rope. i will take a look in the morning and make sure the new gear is ok. any suggestions will be appreciated.