I have an old HRC2163HXA honda mower. Engine runs good. Mower cuts great. Only issue is self propel just dont work. I noticed the transmssion has marks of oil below and looks like a leak. The drive shaft keeps on spinning when mower is running. The cables are all good and no damage.
I read all the threads like there are SB's related to transmission related to this but kinda unclear. I'm hoping. anyone can help me diagnose and repair it. I think its repairable but if not im just gonna sell it for parts.
Thank you.
#2
macespejo
HRC2163HXA propel not working. Possible leak below transmission found
Hello all,
I have an old HRC2163HXA honda mower. Engine runs good. Mower cuts great. Only issue is self propel just dont work. I noticed the transmssion has marks of oil below and looks like a leak. The drive shaft keeps on spinning when mower is running. The cables are all good and no damage.
I read all the threads like there are SB's related to transmission related to this but kinda unclear. I'm hoping. anyone can help me diagnose and repair it. I think its repairable but if not im just gonna sell it for parts.
If you are referring to the shaft coming from the engine, that is correct - it is hard geared to the crank and will (and should) rotate whenever the engine is running. Considering that the HXA is a hydrostatic transmission, and you see signs of leakage, have you checked the fluid level in it?
#4
macespejo
I look into the fluid level and honestly im not sure if has fluid on it but there is a mark of fluid. Its so hard to tell it on the leveling stick on my mower.
driveshaft, driven disc clutch assembly, bearings, transmission, & cables need to be looked at, be patient & don't jump to conclusions, take your time inspecting parts for wear.
#6
macespejo
It looks like there in no tranny fluid on it. Does it mean the transmission is bad already? Does the rotating of drive shaft does not damage the transmission?
#7
macespejo
Here is the photo.
#8
macespejo
Hello all, i did fill up the transmission with honda hydrostatic level and test it again. There is no leak coming out the transmission. Unfortunately, the drive shaft keeps on spinning still and self propel is not working when i push the fwd lever. What would be my next move here?
have a helper engage drive & check cable for working properly at transmission, cable may need to be adjusted or is possibly broken inside sheathing.
have you tried raising rear wheels off the ground with mower handle & transmission engaged? are rear wheels turning? is driveshaft turning under cover, from engine to transmission?
#10
macespejo
I did engage and saw the control arm notch hits the index mark as stated in the Clutch Cable Adjustment page in the honda manual Still no propel working.
#11
macespejo
Mark, thanks for helping me out. I did lift up the mower to check the wheels and Nothing is turning. The drive shaft is still spinning on both engine end and transmission ends.
you can rebuild transmission or purchase a new one.
#13
macespejo
You wont believe what happened. So i tried to mow my lawn today. Engage the blade and then push fwd the lever and it propels a little bit. So i tried adjusting the cable again and it works. The self propel is working. I just notcied some few drops of tranny oil yesterday at the floor. I’ll it check again tomorrow.
It may well have taken a bit to work the air out. If it now works, check for leaks and see if you can correct any you find. Might be as simple as loose bolts holding the case together, or a shaft seal . . .
#15
macespejo
So before I used my mower today. I noticed this leaks on my tranny. See attached pictures. But still my mower propels good and cuts the grass pretty good.
What would be the problem on this pictures? Do i need to fix the leak asap or it can wait until mow season is over? That way i have more time to fix it. If not, any tips how to repair this leak?
#16
macespejo
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#17
macespejo
anyone?
#18
dougand3
2nd pic - is that a crack in the tranny housing? Could be leak there or out the seals around the axle. Housing = $110. Whole Tranny = $240. If handy, may could repair crack with weld or even JB Weld. I'd just top off the tranny fluid before each mow and have at it. Bet it will run a long time.
#19
macespejo
No crack. Maybe some leakage around the seal. I already filled it with fluid and until now its working. Maybe if the fluid is depleted it will stop working. lolz
