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how do i put my smartdrive handle back on?

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buellin745

My smartdrive was barely working so i removed the handle to check the cable and now it wont go back on. When i get it together the pin seems to pop out of the slot in the handle.


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robert@honda

robert@honda

buellin745 said:
My smartdrive was barely working so i removed the handle to check the cable and now it wont go back on. When i get it together the pin seems to pop out of the slot in the handle.
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The were a number of variations of the SmartDRIVE control. Give me the serial number off the back upper edge of the mower deck (it is in the form of "MZZZ-1234567" and I can share some service details.

Is your mower an HRR (steel deck) or HRX (Nexite/composite "plastic" deck) model?

Doe the SmartDrive control have a slide control to adjust the position like this or not?

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buellin745

robert@honda said:
The were a number of variations of the SmartDRIVE control. Give me the serial number off the back upper edge of the mower deck (it is in the form of "MZZZ-1234567" and I can share some service details.

Is your mower an HRR (steel deck) or HRX (Nexite/composite "plastic" deck) model?

Doe the SmartDrive control have a slide control to adjust the position like this or not?
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The Ser # is MZCG- 7237991 it has a steel deck and the handle assembly is not like the one pictured. Thanks for any help.


#4

robert@honda

robert@honda

buellin745 said:
The Ser # is MZCG- 7237991 it has a steel deck and the handle assembly is not like the one pictured. Thanks for any help.
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Okay, here are the drawings I have for your mower; hope this helps.

FYI, there is an update kit available to convert the SmartDRIVE control to an adjustable version, with five different positions for the grip.

You can order it from any Honda dealer. Refer to Honda Lawn Mower Service Bulletin #75, "Smart Drive Grip Improvement" and the kit itself is part number 04401-VL0-B00 "Clutch Grip Kit" and the MSRP is $21.00. Find a dealer at this link:

Find a Honda Dealer

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#5

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buellin745

robert@honda said:
Okay, here are the drawings I have for your mower; hope this helps.

FYI, there is an update kit available to convert the SmartDRIVE control to an adjustable version, with five different positions for the grip.

You can order it from any Honda dealer. Refer to Honda Lawn Mower Service Bulletin #75, "Smart Drive Grip Improvement" and the kit itself is part number 04401-VL0-B00 "Clutch Grip Kit" and the MSRP is $21.00. Find a dealer at this link:

Find a Honda Dealer
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Thanks, Mine does not have a 4 piece grip only two. I will check out the new kit.


#6

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michapeadora

I've tried couple of times, but when I put together the lower and upper grip, the roller pin goes out of the slot in the grip. what you do to keep the roller pin in to the slot?


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tianojoe

michapeadora said:
I've tried couple of times, but when I put together the lower and upper grip, the roller pin goes out of the slot in the grip. what you do to keep the roller pin in to the slot?
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i'd love if someone had an answer to this... i am having the same issue. No throttle control makes cutting the grass pretty rough :(


#8

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Falk3r

Same.


#9

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gainestruk

If roller pin just lays in a slot one trick it to put grease on pin and Some in slot that will make it sticky and maby that will hold it till you get it together.


#10

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Falk3r

Well, this pin is through a collar on the cable with tension. I relaxed the adjustment point as far as possible, but the tension on the cable puts an angle on the pin that allows me to fit it into the "back" half of the housing, but not possible to align it to the "front" half of the housing.

When clipping the halves together, the pin is pushed parallel to the slot and is not able to be pulled.


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Leumcn0

Did you ever get your handle put back together? I'm having the same issue.


#12

robert@honda

robert@honda

Leumcn0 said:
Did you ever get your handle put back together? I'm having the same issue.
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Be sure to disconnect the cable from the transmission, or you won't be able to get enough slack in the cable to insert the crosspin correctly.


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Leumcn0

robert@honda said:
Be sure to disconnect the cable from the transmission, or you won't be able to get enough slack in the cable to insert the crosspin correctly.
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Thanks Robert. I ended up just wedging a piece of wood under the deck where the cable connected to relieve the tension on the cable and it worked perfect. The other issued I am having is with the Blade Control (yellow handle). The blade with only stayed engaged if I hold the right side of the mower handle while mowing. As soon as I let off with my right hand the blade disengages. Hmmm frustrating. Any advice????


#14

robert@honda

robert@honda

Leumcn0 said:
Thanks Robert. I ended up just wedging a piece of wood under the deck where the cable connected to relieve the tension on the cable and it worked perfect. The other issued I am having is with the Blade Control (yellow handle). The blade with only stayed engaged if I hold the right side of the mower handle while mowing. As soon as I let off with my right hand the blade disengages. Hmmm frustrating. Any advice????
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Share your full serial number with me, and I'll check the bulletin list and troubleshooting documents; the sticker is on the back of the mower deck:

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Leumcn0

robert@honda said:
Share your full serial number with me, and I'll check the bulletin list and troubleshooting documents; the sticker is on the back of the mower deck:

lmserialnumber_zps63822669.jpg
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I had my wife send them to me. Not sure if they make sense:

HRT216S3DA and MZCG-7279019

Thanks for any input you have.


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robert@honda

robert@honda

Leumcn0 said:
Not sure if they make sense:

HRT216S3DA and MZCG-7279019

Thanks for any input you have.
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The "HRT..." is the model name, but the HRT216S3DA does not have a blade clutch (yellow button).

Now the "MZCG-" is the exact serial number, but it matches to a HRR2163VXA, which does have a blade clutch, so we'll go with that one.

Anyway, that serial number is in the range of some mowers that were part of a Service Bulletin issued back in September 2006; the issue is the blade control may release even though the customer does not let go of the the lever. The problem is likely due to wear of a pivot cam inside the blade control...the fix is to replace it with an updated design. For mowers still under warranty, this is done at no charge...FYI, it appears your mower was probably purchased in May/June 2006 (2-year warranty).

Any Honda dealer can do this job, for probably 1 hour or less of labor. If you prefer to DIY, you want to get Honda part number 75180-VL0-B00, and drop me a PM and I can send you instructions. Please include your name and address, and I will update the registration database to show you as the owner. Honda asks for this in the unlikely event there is ever a product safety recall and needs to contact you.

Google any part number to find a Honda Dealer selling it online, or use this link to find a Honda Dealer in your area: Find A Honda Dealer


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Leumcn0

robert@honda said:
The "HRT..." is the model name, but the HRT216S3DA does not have a blade clutch (yellow button).

Now the "MZCG-" is the exact serial number, but it matches to a HRR2163VXA, which does have a blade clutch, so we'll go with that one.

Anyway, that serial number is in the range of some mowers that were part of a Service Bulletin issued back in September 2006; the issue is the blade control may release even though the customer does not let go of the the lever. The problem is likely due to wear of a pivot cam inside the blade control...the fix is to replace it with an updated design. For mowers still under warranty, this is done at no charge...FYI, it appears your mower was probably purchased in May/June 2006 (2-year warranty).

Any Honda dealer can do this job, for probably 1 hour or less of labor. If you prefer to DIY, you want to get Honda part number 75180-VL0-B00, and drop me a PM and I can send you instructions. Please include your name and address, and I will update the registration database to show you as the owner. Honda asks for this in the unlikely event there is ever a product safety recall and needs to contact you.

Google any part number to find a Honda Dealer selling it online, or use this link to find a Honda Dealer in your area: Find A Honda Dealer
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Thank you Robert for all of the information and help. I ordered a new part.


#18

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steinauf

robert@honda said:
Okay, here are the drawings I have for your mower; hope this helps.

FYI, there is an update kit available to convert the SmartDRIVE control to an adjustable version, with five different positions for the grip.

You can order it from any Honda dealer. Refer to Honda Lawn Mower Service Bulletin #75, "Smart Drive Grip Improvement" and the kit itself is part number 04401-VL0-B00 "Clutch Grip Kit" and the MSRP is $21.00. Find a dealer at this link:

Find a Honda Dealer
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I've found part 06554-VH7-305 which seems to be identical. Do you know if these part kits are compatible? My plan was to order this for $28 on Amazon and attempt to install. I'm having the same issue fitting the roller pin back into the slots of the handle

My mower is a HRR2163VXA (MZCG-7297017). I see lots of similar model numbers (with or without a K before the 3, or with/without the 3 entirely) which all seem to be referring to the same unit. It's pretty confusing.


#19

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steinauf

this video seems helpful. I've got the first version of the smart drive handle, which is a little different, but i'll give it another shot

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ImPe3vdtfrY


#20

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steinauf

Ok. I got the replacement adjustable handle, and installed it. The only problem is that now it sticks in the on position, which isn't very safe. I'll try taking it apart and greasing it more as I didn't have much available at first (figured whatever was already on the parts would be enough). If anyone has any other ideas I'd appreciate it.


#21

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steinauf

Extra grease doesn't help. Smart drive grip still doesn't return to zero after I engage it, it gets stuck until I give it a light press in the opposite direction. Help!


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