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Honda HR214SX #2 high numbered serial number.

When engine is running rear wheels only turn when off the ground. When wheels are on the ground they wont turn and I hear clicking noise.

Also got this running after cleaning carb in ultrasonic cleaner for 2 480 second cycles. Mower wont stay running on low idle. Will stay running on choke/fast and hi idle.

Did you have the rear wheels off and take those ratchets out?

Turn the engine off. Engage the drive bar on the handle bar. Pull the mower backwards. The wheels should lock up and not roll. Let go of the drive bar. Roll the mower forward. You should hear the clicking of the ratchets.

There's a right and left to those ratchets and if they're reversed, they won't engage.

So far as cleaning the carb, follow the directions in the How to clean a Honda GX carb. Replace the gaskets with brand new ones. Don't bother putting the old gaskets back on, and be certain of their orientation. There's a correct way and a wrong way to put them on, and they'll go on easily either way.

Here's how they go from the engine out to the carb.







This is how the insulator between the carb and air box goes.

Never had wheels off. PO said the transmission didnt work either. So I guess theres a chance a PO took the wheels off at sometime.

Those transmissions are pretty much bullet proof. Throw the mower in the back of your truck, drive it to Illinois. We'll get it working for you in an afternoon.

Mine only had 1 gasket between carb and engine. The black spacer and 2nd gasket not there.

Then I'm guessing the air box must have been sitting right up against the engine shroud too.

bwdbrn1 said:

Then I'm guessing the air box must have been sitting right up against the engine shroud too.

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Yes it is. But if I were to add those then I must be missing spacer for the bolt that helps support the air box. I mean the bolt under the air box going into the block.

It would probably flex enough and still get that bolt in.

Sounds like you need to print all the exploded parts diagrams and see what you do and don't have.

bwdbrn1 said:

It would probably flex enough and still get that bolt in.

Sounds like you need to print all the exploded parts diagrams and see what you do and don't have.

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Yea I guess I do. I know more on the transmission in the morning.

Item #9 Airbox spacer 17239-ZE6-300

The bolt just passes through that. It should be in your air box same as there should be two shorter ones, #8, that the carb bolts pass through. They're just there to strengthen the plastic air box holes and give the bolt and nuts something solid to tighten up against.

Here's what the ratchets look like.



They fit in the wheel. The pawls engage the lugs in the wheels. They're what make that clicking sound you should hear when you're pushing the mower.



The fit in the wheel like this.



That slot fits over the pin in the drive shaft.



The bolt that holds the wheel on is 14mm and you'll have to hold the drive shaft in place with locking pliers to get it to turn out.



Be sure to study the exploded diagrams for the Roto Stop system before you go taking it apart. I have a series of photos on that too, if you want to see how it goes together.

So how you tell if the ratchets are reversed?

davbell22602 said:

So how you tell if the ratchets are reversed?

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By that method I told you in post #2.
"Turn the engine off. Engage the drive bar on the handle bar. Pull the mower backwards. The wheels should lock up and not roll. Let go of the drive bar. Roll the mower forward. You should hear the clicking of the ratchets."

That series of pictures is of the left wheel, so yours should look like that when putting it back together. With the mower up on it's side like in the pictures, you should be able to turn the rear wheels forward and hear the clicking sound. Turn them backwards and the power shaft (axel) should turn with the wheel.

Another thing, only turn the mower on it's side with the carb on the top. If you turn it up on it's side with the carb on the down side, oil will run from the engine through the breather tube into the air cleaner, so don't do that. Just rais the back end of the mower up and block it to remove the right side wheel.

To be honest, some of the best money spent on these things is the Honda Shop Manual.

bwdbrn1 said:

Did you have the rear wheels off and take those ratchets out?

Turn the engine off. Engage the drive bar on the handle bar. Pull the mower backwards. The wheels should lock up and not roll. Let go of the drive bar. Roll the mower forward. You should hear the clicking of the ratchets.

There's a right and left to those ratchets and if they're reversed, they won't engage.

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Will not lock up when engaged and pulling mower backwards.

Here is the page from the shop manual and parts catalog; carefully inspect, clean, and grease as necessary. As others have said, pay particular attention to the pawl assembly. There is a left and right version, and they are not interchangeable.






You can buy a paper copy of the shop manual from Honda's store on ebay or amazon; free shipping and updates for three years. Here are the links:

Amazon.com: Honda HR194 HR214 HRA214 Lawn Mower Service Repair Shop Manual: Patio, Lawn & Garden

Honda HR194 HR214 HRA214 Lawn Mower Service Repair Shop Manual | eBay

A number of Honda dealers sell parts online; a good example is [url]www.boats.net[/url], as they have nicely detailed parts catalogs, prices, etc.

Of course, you can buy local too. Here is a list of Honda Dealers in your area:

Winchester Equipment Company
121 Indian Hollow Rd
Winchester, VA 22603-3938
(540) 667-2244

Dutrow's Sales & Service
6949 Baltimore National Pike
Frederick, MD 21702-3610
(301) 473-8117

Shanks Lawn Equipment
4900 Molly Pitcher Hwy
Chambersburg, PA 17202-8198
(717) 375-4455

Arden Equipment Repair, Inc.
3116 Tabler Station Rd
Martinsburg, WV 25403-5375
(304) 229-8620

Browning Equipment, Inc.
800 E Main St
Purcellville, VA 20132-3163
(540) 338-7123

Hope this helps...

Here's my left side wheel and ratchet.

Here's the right side wheel and ratchet.

Look closely at the exploded diagram Robert posted. The ratchets are parts #1 (left wheel) and #5 (right wheel) and note the direction the pawls are facing. Put them on your mower that direction and barring any problems with the internals of the transmission, which I'd be surprised if there was, and incorrectly adjusted cables, you should be good to go.

Ok, Looks to be right from what I can tell in the diagrams.

I need 2 of part number # 18- 91054VA4800 but its discontinued.

Where are you looking that they're discontinued?

91054-VA4-800 HONDA BEARING, RADIAL BALL (Honda Code 2322766) $12.57

Honda 91054VA4800 BEARING, RADIAL BALL

Plano Power Equipment Online Store - Honda HR214 Rear Wheel Parts

bwdbrn1 said:

Where are you looking that they're discontinued?

91054-VA4-800 HONDA BEARING, RADIAL BALL (Honda Code 2322766) $12.57

Honda 91054VA4800 BEARING, RADIAL BALL

Plano Power Equipment Online Store - Honda HR214 Rear Wheel Parts

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One of distributors is Honda parts dealer as of 10/2013. I key in the number and there system tells me its discontinued.

davbell22602 said:

One of distributors is Honda parts dealer as of 10/2013. I key in the number and there system tells me its discontinued.

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91054-VA4-800 "BEARING, RADIAL BALL" is a valid number, and Honda has 300+ of them sitting in multiple warehouses right now. List price is $17.96. You can Google the part number to find it online, or contact your local Honda dealer.

robert@honda said:

91054-VA4-800 "BEARING, RADIAL BALL" is a valid number, and Honda has 300+ of them sitting in multiple warehouses right now. List price is $17.96. You can Google the part number to find it online, or contact your local Honda dealer.

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Then way is Dixie Sales showing its NLA/Discontinued?

davbell22602 said:

Then way is Dixie Sales showing its NLA/Discontinued?

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Couldn't tell you. You may wish to check with another Honda dealer. I work for the Honda company, and can see inventory for all parts warehouses in the USA, and can confirm that part is available. It is a very common bearing used is the HR194, HR214, HRA214, and HRA215 mowers.

Gonna call Dixie about the bearing. If they still tell me NLA then go with numbers 9 and 10 on the diagram with Dixie. Undecided right now.

This Honda bearing is also active and available at PartsPak.com. They also have a photo of the part on their site so that you can make sure it is what you want. I guess that Dixie just has incorrect information. Here is the link:

http://www.partspak.com/productcart...aring-Radial-Ball-91054VA4800-4581p376733.htm

kelmark2590 said:

This Honda bearing is also active and available at PartsPak.com. They also have a photo of the part on their site so that you can make sure it is what you want. I guess that Dixie just has incorrect information. Here is the link:

Honda 91054-VA4-800 Bearing, Radial Ball; 91054VA4800

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Dixie thinks Honda reversed that part to just the full line equipment dealers and not the part dealers. I'll contact that partspak and see if they have it in stock. Out of the other 3 boat.net was the only one responded saying they 8 those bearings in stock.