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Help with OIL Leaker

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torooilleaker

hi, guys, I am new to this forum and you guys are doing a wonderful work helping each other.

I wanted to see if I can get some helping getting my hands oily fixing my toro recycler that just began to leak oil after oil change.

After two nights of the mower just sitting there, this is what I see: 20140828_082341.jpg20140828_082405.jpg20140828_082420.jpg

I think its coming from the base of the engine as you can see.

How can I go about fixing this?

Is it worth fixing?

Your help will be appreciated. Thanks.


#2

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mechanic mark

Post year, model & serial numbers as well as engine manufacturer and all numbers from engine. You may have over tightened oil drain plug.


#3

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torooilleaker

Hi,

It is a Toro Recycler with personal pace feature.

Year: I don't remember year, i think its 6 years old.20140826_224630.jpg

I really appreciate your help. Thanks.


#4

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mechanic mark

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You will need to remove spark plug wire for safety, then drain engine oil and gas tank. Before removing cables to engine, take pictures or draw picture, or etch, or mark of how parts attach, you may have a good memory and do not need to do so. Remove blade & engine mount bolts then place engine on workbench. I believe your flange is cracked. You will need parts 69,70,72, 73, 75 for repair. Item 73 is not listed it looks like an o ring, you may be able to reuse or go to lawn mower repair or auto parts store to purchase a new one. Parts plus shipping should be under $100, you might want to weigh your options. Let us know how it goes.


#5

Fish

Fish

Sounds like you need to remove the dipstick again, and reset the rubber ring back on correctly, part #306......

But that is just another "wild" guess without knowing, but a lot cheaper fix.....

I remember those drain plugs being plastic, hard to crack the sump then. And most Toros and Lawnboys had a bunch of crap in the way, anyway, so folks would change the oil out of the dipstick tube orifice......

Plus all of that oil is on the top of the deck......


#6

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torooilleaker

Hey,

Thank you very, very much. I am gonna see if I can find # 69 used, at $64, that cost is prohibit at this point. any suggestions?


#7

T

torooilleaker

Sounds like you need to remove the dipstick again, and reset the rubber ring back on correctly, part #306......

But that is just another "wild" guess without knowing, but a lot cheaper fix.....

I remember those drain plugs being plastic, hard to crack the sump then. And most Toros and Lawnboys had a bunch of crap in the way, anyway, so folks would change the oil out of the dipstick tube orifice......

Plus all of that oil is on the top of the deck......

Hi,

the deepstick's base does not show oil leak though? Infact, all I really did on this mower was just adding oil to it because I noticed that the oil was low.


#8

Fish

Fish

So you just spilled some oil on the deck? Give it a bath after topping the oil level off, and mow with it for a while, keep an eye out for leaks.


#9

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torooilleaker

I did not spill oil. But, to remove any doubt, I am going to spray it with degreaser, then power wash it and let it seat another couple of days without starting it, and see what happens.


#10

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torooilleaker

Remember, the oil you see is after I already dried the previous puddle shown herefront.jpg with a towel. I believe this is an oil leak somewhere other than the fill tube. Although, I might add in this particular pic I am showing for the first time that I ran the machine for about 10 minutes. So, throughout the night, the warm oil as a result probably made the puddle worse.


#11

Fish

Fish

The full oil level is usually the same height as the bottom sump, which can be verified by the dipstick, so you may have just got things overfull. Did you tighten the dipstick when checking the oil, or just tap it in until it bottomed out, then checked?


#12

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torooilleaker

I wiped it with a rag and just deeped it. Once the level started showing on the stick, that's when I stopped. Nothing dumped out. Then I tightened the deep stick and ran the mower. After that is when I started noticing oil on the deck.

So, assuming I overfilled it, why was the oil coming out from these bottom areas in the pic? Also, I am sure that there are some oils in it, does it support the theory that the flange is cracked because there were some oil in it. You understand what i am saying?


#13

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motoman

Dry it, start it, get something to read and watch as the engine comes up to temp. Keep looking all 'round. You should be able to see the leak develop. Could take 20 min +


#14

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torooilleaker

omg. You guys are very helpful. I am going to spray it with degreaser, wash it down, dry it out, and then start it and let the leak show up. I will also post more pics of the result.

8/29/14. Here is the result of my experiment from yesterday. So, I had a very small amount of degreaser left at home. So, I sprayed it on it and washed it down with power washer, dried it and left it to dry outside. That was about 7:06 pm yesterday.

Result: 13hrs later, this morning that is, there was no oil leak whatsoever. How can that be explained?

Now, my next plan is to actually run the machine, say, 20 minutes to see what happens. If while the engine is getting hot and I start seeing oil leak, how could that be explained too? Remember, for two days in a row now, I have seen puddles of oil without running it, except the time after I added oil and started, then, noticed oil leak for the first time and for couple of days continuously after that.


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