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Help with my 2013 Snapper 33" riding mower please.

#1

BrokenChef

BrokenChef

New member here.

After the passing of my father, I've taken over maintenance for my mom.

I'm having some issues trying to repair this 10 year old Snapper. My dad was a mechanic and kept everything in good shape. I can do basics but I'm def not a mower mechanic. YouTube is my best friend!

My mower:
Snapper 7800932-00
Ser# 2016462692
Engine model# 219807-0001-65

Looking for:

1. Service manual
2. Spark plug gap
3. Help diagnosing starting issues - I think it might be the starter. There is a new battery and it tries to turn over but just stops with a click. After multiple tries, it does finally turn over, and runs fine. But I'm not sure how to diagnose the starter.

I'm replacing the fuel filter and fuel lines as one is dry rotted, so I may as well replace them all.

I rebuilt the carb on this 5-6 years ago with a little assistance from my dad. He had COPD so he could sit there and direct, but couldn't do much else.

It's also flooded every time I try to start it. It didn't used to do this in years past, so I'm not sure what's causing this.

Mom is short on funds with dads SS and pension gone, and I'm disabled so funds are tight and I need to fix this myself, if at all possible.

I'm headed out for some fuel line and a filter, but first need to know the spark plug gap... Can't find this info anywhere. The plug looks fine and I cleaned it up but want to make sure it's gapped correctly.

Next would be locating a service manual.

And then diagnosing/replacing the starter. I've not been able to find a starter in any parts websites, so maybe this engine uses some other electronic starting component? I was thinking the approclx 6" cylindrical component on the back side is the starter, but maybe it's an alternator??? Pic attached.

A service manual sure would help!

Sorry so long, and thanks for any help!!

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#2

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mechanic mark

Results

www.briggsandstratton.com www.briggsandstratton.com
www.partstree.com

PartsTree - Home of OEM Parts for Outdoor Power Equipment

Parts lookup and repair parts diagrams for outdoor equipment like Toro mowers, Cub Cadet tractors, Husqvarna chainsaws, Echo trimmers, Briggs engines, etc.
www.partstree.com www.partstree.com


#3

BrokenChef

BrokenChef

mechanic mark said:

Results

www.briggsandstratton.com www.briggsandstratton.com
www.partstree.com

PartsTree - Home of OEM Parts for Outdoor Power Equipment

Parts lookup and repair parts diagrams for outdoor equipment like Toro mowers, Cub Cadet tractors, Husqvarna chainsaws, Echo trimmers, Briggs engines, etc.
www.partstree.com www.partstree.com
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Thanks for the help!!

Forgot I posted here...

I figured it out yesterday. The starter solenoid is going bad... Starter is fine.


#4

S

SeniorCitizen

BrokenChef said:
New member here.

After the passing of my father, I've taken over maintenance for my mom.

I'm having some issues trying to repair this 10 year old Snapper. My dad was a mechanic and kept everything in good shape. I can do basics but I'm def not a mower mechanic. YouTube is my best friend!

My mower:
Snapper 7800932-00
Ser# 2016462692
Engine model# 219807-0001-65

Looking for:

1. Service manual
2. Spark plug gap
3. Help diagnosing starting issues - I think it might be the starter. There is a new battery and it tries to turn over but just stops with a click. After multiple tries, it does finally turn over, and runs fine. But I'm not sure how to diagnose the starter.

I'm replacing the fuel filter and fuel lines as one is dry rotted, so I may as well replace them all.

I rebuilt the carb on this 5-6 years ago with a little assistance from my dad. He had COPD so he could sit there and direct, but couldn't do much else.

It's also flooded every time I try to start it. It didn't used to do this in years past, so I'm not sure what's causing this.

Mom is short on funds with dads SS and pension gone, and I'm disabled so funds are tight and I need to fix this myself, if at all possible.

I'm headed out for some fuel line and a filter, but first need to know the spark plug gap... Can't find this info anywhere. The plug looks fine and I cleaned it up but want to make sure it's gapped correctly.

Next would be locating a service manual.

And then diagnosing/replacing the starter. I've not been able to find a starter in any parts websites, so maybe this engine uses some other electronic starting component? I was thinking the approclx 6" cylindrical component on the back side is the starter, but maybe it's an alternator??? Pic attached.

A service manual sure would help!

Sorry so long, and thanks for any help!!
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On your starter remove the + red cable we see and screw the nut back on . Connect a jumper cable from the battery + to that terminal on the starter . Now connect the - jumper cable to the battery and the other end touch a starter mounting bolt .


#5

BrokenChef

BrokenChef

SeniorCitizen said:
On your starter remove the + red cable we see and screw the nut back on . Connect a jumper cable from the battery + to that terminal on the starter . Now connect the - jumper cable to the battery and the other end touch a starter mounting bolt .
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Thanks!!

This info may come in handy one day.

The new solenoid will be here tomorrow, so I should be all set.

I lucked out... Sold some things on Craigslist and the buyer happens to be a small engine mechanic, so he helped me out and determined it's the solenoid.

Most of the parts stores were listing a solenoid with only 3 posts, where mine has 4, but I managed to find the right one on PartsTree, then typed the part number into Amazon.. 2 day shipping, so I'll have it tomorrow.


#6

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SeniorCitizen

The information in reply #4 was to test the starter and prevent buying a new starter if that made the engine crank .


#7

BrokenChef

BrokenChef

SeniorCitizen said:
The information in reply #4 was to test the starter and prevent buying a new starter if that made the engine crank .
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Gotcha. Already tested that, but can use that method in the future to get it started if the solenoid fails again and I need to get it started before a new one arrives... Or if the starter goes out, then I'll know if it's the starter vs solenoid.

The guy who helped me tested everything with a multimeter and through a visual inspection of the starter... I thought maybe a tooth broke off the starter pinion gear, since it's plastic, but turned out to be just a $25 solenoid.


#8

BrokenChef

BrokenChef

Glad I bookmarked this! Here I am 5 months later with the same issue, and a few others.

My carb float/gasket failed and 3 gallons of gas leaked out the carb. Just replaced the carb and the manifold tube that I broke the vent hose nipple off of last time I worked on this.

In the process of flushing the oil tank as it was full of gas.

New question:

The $15 starter solenoid I put on 5 months ago seems to have failed. I have another otw, but am wondering.. could there be a short/broken wire causing the solenoids to fail? Or did I just have my typical luck and got a crappy one?

Is there maybe a better brand solenoid?
Could there be an issue with the starter that causes this?

I considered just buying a $35 aftermarket starter with a metal gear to see if that solves the problem of solenoids failing, but figured, since I'm back here to check the solenoid bypass method, I may as well ask.

The OEM B&S starter is $85.. if I do need a starter, is it worth the extra $50 for OEM?

Thanks!!


#9

H

hlw49

BrokenChef said:
Glad I bookmarked this! Here I am 5 months later with the same issue, and a few others.

My carb float/gasket failed and 3 gallons of gas leaked out the carb. Just replaced the carb and the manifold tube that I broke the vent hose nipple off of last time I worked on this.

In the process of flushing the oil tank as it was full of gas.

New question:

The $15 starter solenoid I put on 5 months ago seems to have failed. I have another otw, but am wondering.. could there be a short/broken wire causing the solenoids to fail? Or did I just have my typical luck and got a crappy one?

Is there maybe a better brand solenoid?
Could there be an issue with the starter that causes this?

I considered just buying a $35 aftermarket starter with a metal gear to see if that solves the problem of solenoids failing, but figured, since I'm back here to check the solenoid bypass method, I may as well ask.

The OEM B&S starter is $85.. if I do need a starter, is it worth the extra $50 for OEM?

Thanks!!
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Do not buy the starter with a metal gear if yours is plastic, It will mess up the ring gear on the fly wheel.


#10

BrokenChef

BrokenChef

hlw49 said:
Do not buy the starter with a metal gear if yours is plastic, It will mess up the ring gear on the fly wheel.
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Lovely... I didn't look hard, but when I entered my engine model number, the metal gear starter was what came up on 3 different sites. I just figured they switched over to using metal.

Amazon delivered my solenoid as I was putting new oil in, so I put that on and I'm running smooth again. Hopefully this solenoid lasts more than 5 months!


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