No, I don’t own a Ferris.Feeding a new belt on looks pretty straight forward. Not easy but do able.
I appreciate your explanation about how to do..... I've been through all of that already.
Do you own an IS2600Z?
This machine is a nightmare to replace belts on.
I guess I'm spoiled because I've owened a Scags for the last 30 years. Easy easy to do maintenance on.
I thought when I bought this Ferris it would be similar.
Your last comment about taking it to a dealer is to simplistic.
I have to move this beast with no power to the drives onto a trailer. Or pay a fortune to have them pick it up.
You would have thought someone would have paid attention to the area's of maintenance and repair.
It is built like a tank, but very little accessability to the things that will most likely go first.
As stated, reinstalling the drive belt, or installing a new one should be doable, and not take three days worth of trying. Because this zero turn is brand new, and you probably paid around $20,000 for it, why not call the dealer you bought it from and ask for help? Surely if they are a good business, they will figure out a way to help you. A stick getting wedged in belt and causing it to come off. No, this is not covered under warranty, but it would be good customer service by the Ferris dealer to help you. Call them and talk to them about it.Thanks for your thoughts,
No, I've been through all of this stuff.
I need someone who owns one of these.
They made so many models and all are different.
My experience with Ferris Dealers hasn't been good. Last year I had to take my cutter in because it wouldn't start. That dealer wouldn't give me my cutter back until the Ferris boys paid him. He said I didn't buy the cutter from them. I contacted Ferris and told them what happen. They told me that next time I should go to a different dealer.As stated, reinstalling the drive belt, or installing a new one should be doable, and not take three days worth of trying. Because this zero turn is brand new, and you probably paid around $20,000 for it, why not call the dealer you bought it from and ask for help? Surely if they are a good business, they will figure out a way to help you. A stick getting wedged in belt and causing it to come off. No, this is not covered under warranty, but it would be good customer service by the Ferris dealer to help you. Call them and talk to them about it.
I’m curious. Why did you choose a Ferris over some of the other brands out there?My experience with Ferris Dealers hasn't been good. Last year I had to take my cutter in because it wouldn't start. That dealer wouldn't give me my cutter back until the Ferris boys paid him. He said I didn't buy the cutter from them. I contacted Ferris and told them what happen. They told me that next time I should go to a different dealer.
This time I did exactly what you mentioned, only it was B&G owners of Ferris. They helped a little but said the same thing. You'll probably have to cut off the belt ($200.00 plus).
I bought it from a Dealer who is over 100 miles from me. They were super nice people. I'll most likely be taking it back there. Problem is with out power (no belt) I'll have to get it on a trailer somehow.
Did I mention, now the gear box is leaking oil. Definetly must go back.
I had seen this machine about a year ago before I made the purchase. I had/have a Scags at the time and was thinking that it was time to start looking for a new machine.I’m curious. Why did you choose a Ferris over some of the other brands out there?
Thanks for answering.I had seen this machine about a year ago before I made the purchase. I had/have a Scags at the time and was thinking that it was time to start looking for a new machine.
My first choice was another Scags. I wanted a diesel though with the next purchase. I priced out the Scags diesel and was shocked at the asking prices. I started calling dealers. No one would budge off of MSRP and some wanted more. Some dealers didn't even have any to purchase and would have to be ordered.
I went to the Internet.
Found the IS2600Z Ferris on sale at the place I bought it (100 plus miles away). Their price was $21,394.00 and a Clearance price of $19,995.00. Told them about my searches and said that I requested their best price and would make the purchase is I thought it was good. They came back with $16,500.00
How could I turn that down. Got my Diesel, 61 inch cut, and a great price.
I didn't do my homework like I should have. Don't get me wrong, the Ferris is a tank. But now that I am into fixing and maintaining it, I question whether I made a good decision.
Long story, but you asked.
Thanks for answering.
I don’t see many diesel zero turns in SW Georgia. Those that I do see are either Kubota or John Deere. Every now and then I see a Grasshopper.
John Deere uses the Yanmar diesel. Same thing that I have in the Ferris. I've had very good experience with Yanmar. Those engines like Kubota will last a life time.Thanks for answering.
I don’t see many diesel zero turns in SW Georgia. Those that I do see are either Kubota or John Deere. Every now and then I see a Grasshopper.
I couldn't believe it either. Hence the purchase.I can’t believe they dropped the purchase price $4500 off of retail. You should remember this as you are going through all this aggregation with the drive belt.
model 5901929What is the model from the serial number tag? The one I looked up is simple to remove but yours might be a different setup. But it is a double belt setup.
Not sure exactly what you are saying. Here is what I have. There are two belts but only one is for the hydrostatic transaxles. the other belt is for the deck.Okay now things are clearer. There is two sets of drive belts. One is the double belt setup the engine to the right angle gear box and the one belt that drives the two hydrostatic transaxles.
The engine to right angle is the easiest to change. The right angle to transaxles is a lot harder. Two things must be removed. One is the spring that goes from moving idler arm to frame. The other is the PTO clutch. Then you should be to remove the drive without cutting it. The installation is the reverse making you use some anti-seize compound as you re-install the PTO clutch. Having a tool to unhook the idler spring is a plus.
Other than it is basic ZTR drive belt replacement. The only issue I see might be getting the belt off the transaxle pulleys as some ZTRs have very little clearance between the pulleys and the frame so in those cases the units must be loosen to slip the belt off and on.
The key here is taking your time as it is time consuming work especially the first time you do it. This setup is a little different than most ZTRs with the additional two stationary idler pulleys. Also you finding why the shops have so many jacks and jack stands so we can safely work on these mowers.
I have these pictures. This is exactly the same.
5025013X22 1 BOLT, 3/8-16 X 2-3/4" GD5 CZAre you sure you not confusing thread size with the hex size? A 3/8-16 hex screw normally has a 9/16 wrench size.
Funny you should say that. I was looking at what it would take to do that this morningWill dropping the deck allow you easier access?
I thought that the head on that bolt looked aweful big for a 3/8 wrench.5025013X22 1 BOLT, 3/8-16 X 2-3/4" GD5 CZ
This is what the parts book says.
They dont pay engineers for that any more. My brother in law who works on cars always reminds me that those things we call quick disconnects are not that at all...they are quick connects to make assembly line work faster and as mistake free as they can, some of those things are almost impossible to get at for disassembly. Nothing is about servicing when its being built. Its all about saving pennies for faster assembly and sales. Thats what they hire the engineers for. They have no care about how how difficult service is as they expect you will be paying someone for that too and its just more (of your) money for everyone else!You would have thought someone would have paid attention to the area's of maintenance and repair.
If you can’t get it off and decide to cut it, how will you get the new belt on?
You are going to have to remove the deck belt first.
You are then going to have to unplug your PTO clutch and remove the PTO anti-rotation bolt.
You are then going to release the tension spring on the hydraulic drive tensioner pulley.
Now, you are ready to remove the belt. Replace in reverse manner.
I know that this video isn’t for your mower. However, the procedure is similar.
The other option is to load it up and take it to the dealer.
This is the closest video that I have found on this subject. I've watched it several times.Thank you! I'm yelling at the suggestion to "cut it off".....
It's a 3/8" bolt...the head could be anything. The spec does not say 3/8" head.....I thought that the head on that bolt looked aweful big for a 3/8 wrench.
I'm 77 and still learning things that I didn't know.
Now I'm going to have a nice long 3/8 wrench.
Go here - match up your units model & s/nAbout a week ago my brand new Ferris IS2600Z Diesel threw a drive belt do to a branch that wedged up into the belt and pulley . I could not move back or forward. I got a look and saw that the drive belt (top belt) not the deck belt came off of the pulley. So the hydraulics were not working.
The belt is still in good shape and all I want to do is take it off. I have a new belt coming, but the one that is on is still in pretty good shape . the branch didn't do to much damage.
For three days, I've been trying to remove the belt rather then cutting it off.
If you have this machine and have tried to get the belt off let me know how you did it.
I've been in contact with B&S who makes Ferris and they don't know how to get my belt off either. Their answer..... cut it off.
I've been to all the sites for Ferris. Apparently, this model isn't the most popular one.
I think I'm the only one who bought one.
try going here - https://www.ferrismowers.com/na/en_...s.productmanuals.html?searchrequested=5901475About a week ago my brand new Ferris IS2600Z Diesel threw a drive belt do to a branch that wedged up into the belt and pulley . I could not move back or forward. I got a look and saw that the drive belt (top belt) not the deck belt came off of the pulley. So the hydraulics were not working.
The belt is still in good shape and all I want to do is take it off. I have a new belt coming, but the one that is on is still in pretty good shape . the branch didn't do to much damage.
For three days, I've been trying to remove the belt rather then cutting it off.
If you have this machine and have tried to get the belt off let me know how you did it.
I've been in contact with B&S who makes Ferris and they don't know how to get my belt off either. Their answer..... cut it off.
I've been to all the sites for Ferris. Apparently, this model isn't the most popular one.
I think I'm the only one who bought one.
I’m glad that you finally got it. Did you have to remove the mower deck?I am finally through with this whole disaster of belt change.
If any one wants I'll go through everything that I had to do I'll do it.
My freind and I worked on this Ferris for 4 hours today. Both of us guessing what to do.
It is working now at the end of several hours of swearing and knuckle busting moves.
The belts can't be replaced with one person it takes two.
If you have an Is2600Z Ferris, it is a beast to change the Hyro drive belt on. Deck belt is a piece of cake.
One of the biggest obsticles is the battery holder. Taking it out is a risk. leaving it in blocks all vision and accessess as to what to do.
I am so exahusted that this is all I want to do for now.
Curious, how many hours are on your mower ... ?We came close to dropping it. But did not. Mike (my friend) is younger and a lot stronger then I am . He was able to pull on the idler so hard while I was able to jamb it from moving back. He was able then to slip the belt back under that pulley, where it belonged. This was only able to happen because he is strong and young. We spent the next two to three hours trying to put the belt back on under tension. Since that pulley is under the battery box you cannot use that spot for the last place to slip the belt on. Instead he went back to that idler pulley with spring on it, gave it a pull like only he could and I saw in the back under the cuttler slipping it on over the pulley mounted on the clutch shaft.
New old belt was still in good shape and I hope it lasts a long time. New belt still arriving in a few days.
One last note. We didn't try it but maybe by removing the battery box with the six bolts and two pistons attached to it, there would have been adequate area to do it like the book says.
So for now, this is the end of this long story. I tried it and it is working good again.
Now I'll be able to drive it back on my trailer and haul it off to a dealer who will do the warranty work on the transmission box that is leaking oil.
Ouch - I've got about 850 on mine and (crossing my fingers) the only issue has been the PTO switch went bad, kind of expected after a while... and well, there was that morning that I kind of buried it clear up to the frame thinking I could make it through a wet area. Yikes, when I stepped off even I sunk up to my ankles .....Less then 30 hours
Next time remove tensioner spring, install belt, and reinstall spring and it will be easier.We came close to dropping it. But did not. Mike (my friend) is younger and a lot stronger then I am . He was able to pull on the idler so hard while I was able to jamb it from moving back. He was able then to slip the belt back under that pulley, where it belonged. This was only able to happen because he is strong and young. We spent the next two to three hours trying to put the belt back on under tension. Since that pulley is under the battery box you cannot use that spot for the last place to slip the belt on. Instead he went back to that idler pulley with spring on it, gave it a pull like only he could and I saw in the back under the cuttler slipping it on over the pulley mounted on the clutch shaft.
New old belt was still in good shape and I hope it lasts a long time. New belt still arriving in a few days.
One last note. We didn't try it but maybe by removing the battery box with the six bolts and two pistons attached to it, there would have been adequate area to do it like the book says.
So for now, this is the end of this long story. I tried it and it is working good again.
Now I'll be able to drive it back on my trailer and haul it off to a dealer who will do the warranty work on the transmission box that is leaking oil.
You don't have one of these do you. Or your reading from a book not actually doing it.Next time remove tensioner spring, install belt, and reinstall spring and it will be easier.
A piece of 1/4” braided nylon cord or rope makes a good spring removal/install tool.You don't have one of these do you. Or your reading from a book not actually doing it.
Not sure how you mean to use it.A piece of 1/4” braided nylon cord or rope makes a good spring removal/install tool.
Never mind. The cord works great on the deck tension springs.Not sure how you mean to use it.
I do own a Ferris 60” zero turn, and a Scag as well. The point is, I have worked on enough mowers to know there is a tensioner pulley on the drive belt on a zero turn, and a stiff spring gives it tension. I have a spring removal tool, but sometimes you have to use a ratchet strap and wire because the spring tension is too great.You don't have one of these do you. Or your reading from a book not actually doing it.
And, some tensioning pulley assemblies have a square hole to accept a 1/2” pull handle and extension.I do own a Ferris 60” zero turn, and a Scag as well. The point is, I have worked on enough mowers to know there is a tensioner pulley on the drive belt on a zero turn, and a stiff spring gives it tension. I have a spring removal tool, but sometimes you have to use a ratchet strap and wire because the spring tension is too great.
Everythng is back up and workingI am looking at ways to make removal of that battery box easier. The way that it is mounted in there, you would think that it was part of the frame support. Not just someplace to store the battery.
It is not uncommon when you do repairs to have to remove one or more parts to do the repair. It is not uncommon for space to be very tight and limited when working on ATVs and small engine equipment. It is not uncommon to have a poor line of sight as well.I am looking at ways to make removal of that battery box easier. The way that it is mounted in there, you would think that it was
Everythng is back up and working
Putting the Deck belt on is not that hard.
putting the drive belt on is a different story.
Oil continues to leak from the top of the gear box. Pressure relief valve.
I've been using my "Max Jax" to lift and lower this unit. Without the lift I can't imagine how you would perform this operation.