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Engine won't crank - Stuck on compression?

#1

borjawil

borjawil

Poulan Pro pp19a42 model with 19hp intek engine.

Battery and starter are good.
Engine will turn 1/8 turn approx and starter can't get it past that. So I turn by hand a bit, and starter will start the tractor up just fine.

I have set the valves - top valve exhaust at .004-.005, bottom valve intake at .006.
In my searching some say to turn the engine by hand until piston is at TDC and both rockers are loose. Some say to turn it just past TDC until your screwdriver, or whatever you're using inside the cylinder, goes back in 1/4". I've tried both. Only thing that seems to be consistent is EX valve .004-.006, and IN at .005-.007.

Is there something else that could be causing this issue? Seems a common issue due to valve lash, or decompression cam?


#2

ILENGINE

ILENGINE

With the valve gaps set correctly, and the spark plug removed for easier engine turning, turn the engine by hand while watching the intake valve. Just before TDC compression stroke you should see the intake valve get bumped open slightly. That is the compression release. If no bump then time to open it up to replace the cam and locate the 4 broken pieces of the compression release. I say 4 pieces because that is what seems to be common, but could be more or less.


#3

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Rivets

Simple test before throwing time and money at this engine. Before opening the engine hook a VOLT meer across the battery and watch the voltage when trying to start the engine. If the battery voltage drops below 10 VDC when the engine stops turning, your battery needs to be replaced.


#4

borjawil

borjawil

Already checked for voltage drop. Brand new battery.


#5

StarTech

StarTech

Intake .003 - .005
Exhaust .005 - .007

Always set closer to the tighter clearance on OHV engines.


#6

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Auto Doc's

Sounds like another compression relief failure issue to me. Intek engines have a well-known history of this problem.

B&S had these cams on backorder for a very long time. Hopefully they have caught up production.

Do not order and aftermarket cam unless you like the practice of taking your engine apart for repeat issues.


#7

ILENGINE

ILENGINE

Auto Doc's said:
Sounds like another compression relief failure issue to me. Intek engines have a well-known history of this problem.

B&S had these cams on backorder for a very long time. Hopefully they have caught up production.

Do not order and aftermarket cam unless you like the practice of taking your engine apart for repeat issues.
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Just got 4 more for the inventory a couple weeks ago for the spring stockup order, and there was no backorder or delay in shipping. That could of changed by now though.


#8

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SeniorCitizen

borjawil said:
Poulan Pro pp19a42 model with 19hp intek engine.

Battery and starter are good.
Engine will turn 1/8 turn approx and starter can't get it past that. So I turn by hand a bit, and starter will start the tractor up just fine.

I have set the valves - top valve exhaust at .004-.005, bottom valve intake at .006.
In my searching some say to turn the engine by hand until piston is at TDC and both rockers are loose. Some say to turn it just past TDC until your screwdriver, or whatever you're using inside the cylinder, goes back in 1/4". I've tried both. Only thing that seems to be consistent is EX valve .004-.006, and IN at .005-.007.

Is there something else that could be causing this issue? Seems a common issue due to valve lash, or decompression cam?
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I hope you know the piston should be @ the top on the compression stroke


#9

grumpyunk

grumpyunk

You could have a worn out starter relay. The relay has internal contacts that get a good spark every time the starter is engaged. The contacts arc and get a pitted surface that may become less conductive, and limit current fed to the starter motor. You can jumper across the two large terminals to send power directly to the starter. If the starter then works properly, a replacement relay may be helpful. If you like to fiddle, you can drill the rivets holding the relay together, and check the contacts on the moving bar and the two stationary cable conductors for wear and damage. Clean up and re-assemble as you wish.
tom


#10

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RevB

Starter and/or battery aren't "good".


#11

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djengr444

Agree with the compression relief. I had same issue, thought starter, battery etc. After replacing starter, took engine out and found broken device on cam shaft that relieves pressure by keeping valve open a bit longer till centrifugal force moves the device. Not a hard job to do, tedious at best. I found instructions on you tube.

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Freddie21

I have heard where people will send a small diameter magnet down the oil fill tube to see if they come up with metal pieces or shreds to possibly determine if ACR flew apart. I just did that job for the first time and it was kinda enjoyable as I didn't need the machine right away. Just over $125 in OEM parts.


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