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Echo ES-2100 Blower and Coil...

#1

seagiant

seagiant

Hi,
Gifted this Blower, really dirty, cleaned it bought a new Carb...

Replaced Fuel lines,Sparkplug, and tried to crank and nothing...

Checked Muffler, checked spark, checked compression (120 PSI) pulled Flywheel, key is good, Coil was rusted...

Tested Coil with Vom and numbers run up and down and then settle out.

Wondering if Coil gives a spark on test but not good under compression???

Ordered new coil, only thing I can think it could be?


#2

StarTech

StarTech

Due to the way the terminal is attached to high tension lead it is possible for the make contact and lose contact as the lead is moved around. Often it break the center wire at he point of insertion causing this make/break connection. IF the lead is long enough you can trim it back a little and insert the terminal in a new location. Otherwise it is lead replacement.


#3

seagiant

seagiant

Hi,
Thanks, I think the Coil is Toast but does spark when tested?

I will see what the new coil does?


#4

seagiant

seagiant

Hi,
Well new Coil installed, still won't start!

I have spark, compression, and fuel, timing good...

The only else I can think of is a seal leak.

Will have to tear it down and check for that...

Only thing I can think of at the moment!


#5

StarTech

StarTech

Why? The non invasive pressure/vac test should be done first that why you know for sure if you have leakage before you tear down an unit that nothing is wrong with.

Beside if it is a leakage it more likely to be the cylinder gasket where the cylinder screws are loose.

Even with leaky gasket or seals it should still hit with fuel mix induced directly into the cylinder if the ignition is working correctly as you got 120 psi.


#6

seagiant

seagiant

Hi,
Yes, I was going to pressure test.

It will not even pop with fuel in the cylinder through plug hole or carb?

Pulled a known good plug also to test?

Does not make any sense, but...

I will check cylinder bolts for tight, looked for and saw no oil or leakage around crank seal when I removed fly wheel to check the key.

Thanks again.


#7

seagiant

seagiant

Hi,
Did a Vacuum Test, do not have my Pressure Tester till tomorrow, but...

Vacuum is steady as a rock, I mean no leak down???

Cylinder Screws are tight of course...

Will see tomorrow what the Pressure Test shows but if good like the Vacuum, and I am confused!!!

If I am missing something, do not know what it is?
test.JPG


#8

StarTech

StarTech

Then it should be a timing issue...

Wonder if someone replaced the flywheel. Two different one used depending on the serial # break which is at 549733.

Unless you have a Canadian unit then serial number is different.


#9

seagiant

seagiant

Hi,
Thanks, info is...

Echo ES-2100 Type 1-E Ser. # 529028


#10

StarTech

StarTech

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#11

seagiant

seagiant

Hi,
Info off of Flywheel... Phelon 22370-03 Made in USA?


#12

seagiant

seagiant

Hi,
Well from what I can find that is the OEM Flywheel???


#13

R

Rivets

Did you do the simple thing like checking the spark arrester to see if it is clogged? One of the first things to check on hard starting 2- cycle engines.


#14

seagiant

seagiant

Hi,
Thanks, yes I mentioned that.

I will see what happens when I get the pressure tester tomorrow, but if good...

I'm out of ideas, do not see anything, I'm missing?


#15

R

Rivets

You said you checked the muffler, but did you disassemble it and check the muffler spark arrester screen.


#16

StarTech

StarTech

What Rivets is asking is have you checked item #19? I assumed you did.
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#17

seagiant

seagiant

Hi,
Yes, thanks, I pulled the screen, everything is clear.


#18

seagiant

seagiant

Hi,
Well... Got my pressure tester in and this thing passes pressure and vacuum tests with flying colors? (Holds 7 PSI, steady as a rock!)

I'm going to put it back together and try it again.

If it still does not work, I have a Buddy that owns a Lawn Mower Shop and will see what he can find.

I feel like I'm missing something, but do not know what it is???


#19

StarTech

StarTech

Have tried putting the piston at TDC and seeing where the flywheel magnets line up with the ignition coil?


#20

seagiant

seagiant

Hi,
No, but just did!

Here is a pic, marked location of magnets on flywheel then set to TDC...

About an inch from edge of magnet to edge of nearest coil leg.

This flywheel has an internal (built in) key and looks fine?

Thoughts???flywheel.JPG


#21

seagiant

seagiant

Hi,
Put everything back together and still no start?

I would like to try another flywheel just for kicks but hate doing that!


#22

seagiant

seagiant

Hi,
Well, took the Blower to my Buddy that owns his own Lawn Mower Shop.

He told me the problem was a scored Cylinder/Piston which I knew.

However I still got 125PSI on the Compression Test and called it good?

Nope does not work that way it seems!

Just thought I would follow up with what the problem was for others following along!

Lesson learned!


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