hey twall didn't some company(can't remember) call their rer mower the lawn bug or something like that? so now when are you getting a cc rer and restore it ,then you can have a 3 way standoff on all your brands:smile: hey, i was at sears last night to pick up my leaf blower(thats a whole story) and while there i was checking out the rer mowers (they have 2 versions,right) and the one you mentioned a while back in your thread about the snapper and craftsman are alike . yes that black creftsman rer looked pretty good sitting there, but whats up with the bare cable from the clutch/brake pedal and going through the(apparently allowed) hole in the tube frame. the cable seems to rub a lot on the tube frame . is that right or not