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Cub Cadet just stop moving while I was mowing.

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Chris623

I was mowing when my RZT L just stop moving forward..................in fact it wouldn't move backward either. The steering levers feel as if I'm trying to push them through cold honey. Move them in all directions and nothing happens. Engine runs fine, blades engage and disengage just fine. Sure could use some suggestions as to where to start looking to solve this problem.


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ILENGINE

ILENGINE

Hydrostat belt either came off or broke. Need to look up under the rear of the mower, above the deck belt


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Chris623

Hmmmmm. Thought there was only one belt on the mower. DUH !!! Shows you what I know ! Thanks, I'll check it tomorrow. Now to get in the manual and figure out how to get to it. :unsure::LOL:


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Auto Doc's

Look under the seat and give us your model and serial number, so we can help you with references if needed.

Cab Cadet also provides free manual downloads that cover lots of repair information but often has some missing segments.


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Chris623

Sorry I'm just now getting back to this. Had Dr.s appts all day.

The only thing I found under the seat was RZT 50............and a plate showing model numbers for things like spark plugs, grass catchers, etc., etc., etc. But couldn't find anything looking like a serial number. Couldn't find one on my shippers bill of lading. Couldn't find it in my owner's operating manual either. Doesn't make any sense, but I couldn't find it anywhere.


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Auto Doc's

You are correct, that is a part listing label you saw, I had to look at mine just a minute ago. The product ID label is actually on the metal seat bottom, left side. Easy to miss if you don't flip the seat far enough.

Here is a picture:

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Chris623

Thanks, I'll look there.


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Chris623

I've got my seat covered with a Black garbage bag because our property is so dusty. Keeping the seat clean enough to sit on. ;) So that's why I didn't notice the serial number under there.
Any way.................the SER # is 17AFCACP056. Don't know if that is a 0 or an O.


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Auto Doc's

Glad you found it.

With VIN and PIN numbers it is always a zero "0".

Here is a parts diagram:

www.partstree.com

PartsTree - Home of OEM Parts for Outdoor Power Equipment

Parts lookup and repair parts diagrams for outdoor equipment like Toro mowers, Cub Cadet tractors, Husqvarna chainsaws, Echo trimmers, Briggs engines, etc.
www.partstree.com www.partstree.com

These can be interesting to put a drive belt on. Be sure the cooling fans on each drive motor is good and be sure to replace the tensioner idler for the drive belt. Just doing the belt, will be practice for going back and doing the pulley in a very short time. (likely with another new belt)

You will have to raise the rear of the machine, then remove the wheels for access.

If you are not mechanically inclined and have the tools, then I suggest a reputable shop or a competent mechanic who knows there way around riders and zero turn equipment.

Cub Cadet does not show a drive belt replacement procedure that I could find. The owner's manual only shows deck belt replacement. Maybe someone else has the drive belt replacement information here on the site.

Best of luck


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Chris623

Thanks. That parts diagram isn't going to be much help is it ??? I've replaced the deck belt before............and also at a later date, the spindles. I'm 80 years old and getting to where getting down on the ground like I'll need to do is difficult. But so is coming up with the funds to pay someone to do it for me. ;) I've watched a few videos on YouTube University and they didn't pull the wheels. Why are you suggesting that ???

How do I check the functioning of the fans ?


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ILENGINE

ILENGINE

Chris623 said:
Thanks. That parts diagram isn't going to be much help is it ??? I've replaced the deck belt before............and also at a later date, the spindles. I'm 80 years old and getting to where getting down on the ground like I'll need to do is difficult. But so is coming up with the funds to pay someone to do it for me. ;) I've watched a few videos on YouTube University and they didn't pull the wheels. Why are you suggesting that ???

How do I check the functioning of the fans ?
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I normally jack up the rear wheels and put blocks under them to hold the mower up to give clearance without the jack being in the way. The pto clutch will have to come off which may some special methods to keep the engine from turning while removing the clutch bolt from the crankshaft or the use of an impact gun.

Fan function would be to make sure the blades are not broken off or badly worn.


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Auto Doc's

Hi Chris623,

At 80 years of age I don't think I would attempt this repair. I'm 61 and I don't rush around like I used to.

An experienced shop would be a good choice.

I jack up the rear and pull the wheels as a personal preference on this model. I also have a Z-Force 48 that the wheels have to come off and the lower transmission mount plate has to be lowered on, that one is much more work.


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Chris623

Yes, I know the shaft can't be allowed to turn. I can handle that. I have two 13" rims from my trailer that will work nicely, I think, to keep the back end up. Just don't know if that will be high enough......................but guess I'll find out now won't I ???

I'm in the gym three days a week lifting and doing cardio. I'm not like most 80 year old folks. It's the heat that gets to me............but I am aware of my age and try not to bite off more than I can chew. (climbed an 80' radio tower to install a 32' Yagi antenna two years ago, so I'm not afraid of work) But I'm on a fixed income and take very few things to someone else for repair.


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HoustonDave

Ironically just watched a video on doing it on a John Deere, don't know how similar it may be. He backed the mower on ramps, set the brake, threaded the belt up through the center, looped it over the engine output shaft at the back (but not on the actual pulley). Then he worked the belt over each fan onto the transmission pulleys - now the belt is correctly over the fan pulleys, the idler, and motor shaft. The tensioner has a 3/8" square in it to adjust with a ratchet and extension - he then used the ratchet to loosen the tensioner bracket against the spring and seat the belt correctly on the engine output pulley. I think he said it took about a half hour and was not as bad a job as it looked like. To me it did NOT look like fun.


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Chris623

Thanks for that info, HoustonDave. I got the rear end up in the air on two tire rims and pulled the floor jack out of the way. I crawled under just to see what there was to see and I saw what I saw...................whatever that means !!! ;) I was able to reach the belt and it seems a tad loose, but when I tugged on it, it didn't seem broken. The mower is sitting outside in the weather and we started having a series of rain events immediately after and I've not been able to get out there since. Even when it stops all this rain it will be several days until it dries out enough to craw under.


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HoustonDave

Chris623 said:
Thanks for that info, HoustonDave. I got the rear end up in the air on two tire rims and pulled the floor jack out of the way. I crawled under just to see what there was to see and I saw what I saw...................whatever that means !!! ;) I was able to reach the belt and it seems a tad loose, but when I tugged on it, it didn't seem broken. The mower is sitting outside in the weather and we started having a series of rain events immediately after and I've not been able to get out there since. Even when it stops all this rain it will be several days until it dries out enough to craw under.
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HoustonDave

Sounds like the bearing in your idler pulley may have gone away.


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Chris623

Don't know. Will just have to wait for dry weather and crawl under it and see what's going on. But thanks for the tip.


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Honest Abe

maybe this video will help - - -


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Chris623

Yes, I have that video saved to my desktop for when the weather smiles upon me. :ROFLMAO: But thanks for sending it.


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Honest Abe

check that the towing disengagement lever(s) haven't popped out... I doubt this is the problem but worth checking first.


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Chris623

No, I'm up on that. But thanks for mentioning it. That was the first thing I checked when I jumped off the mower when it stopped rolling.


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sgkent

if you lack the funds, at age 80 you need someone who can assist you with things you cannot do yourself. If the kids can't or won't help dad, or there are none, time to start attending the house of worship of your faith and get to know some of the folks who like to help. You can always volunteer babysitting in the nursery, or teaching sunday school to help reciprocate for the help.


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SeniorCitizen

Chris623 said:
I've got my seat covered with a Black garbage bag because our property is so dusty. Keeping the seat clean enough to sit on. ;) So that's why I didn't notice the serial number under there.
Any way.................the SER # is 17AFCACP056. Don't know if that is a 0 or an O.
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A easy way to remember o's and 0's :

Cheerios are round and 0's are ellipse .


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Chris623

Continuation: Mower is up and I find the belt is intact but off the right side pully. Getting ready to drop the transmission and have pulled the motor shroud off but can't figure out how to get the plastic cover off the flywheel ????? I need to get a wrench on the top nut to unscrew the nut below the transmission. Someone mentioned there's an online shop manual. I've looked for it but can't seem to find it.


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Chris623

Well, it's a done deal. Finished and just mowed my yard. Don't own an impact wrench, but I was able to get the nut off the bottom of the transmission using a "cheater" on my 8" ratchet wrench. Wasn't a difficult job at all.............just didn't really know what I was doing and really hate "flying blind" like that. Oh well, it's done and all is well.


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Chris623

Oops! Celebrated too quickly, I think. I just mowed for an hour and just as I was finishing up, the belt came off again. That's puzzling !!! Didn't hit a large stick, tree stump or anything like that. It was on very smooth ground when it happened. Any thoughts from the gallery ??? Guess I'll crib it up again and start all over.


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