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A lil while back I made a comment on a thread concerning a repair on a newer style E series engine....

I said Briggs had advertised a newer no change oil engine just add.... Some people just shook their head and almost called me a fool, wanting me to supply proof.....

A few others had heard of it also but couldn't find info.... Briggs did have a bulletin out on it and I couldn't find it. Well here it is in black and white and Red and black and white.....

www.briggsandstratton.com/na/en_us/innovations/push-mowers/just-check-and-add-technology.html

Boudreaux In Eunice La. said:

A lil while back I made a comment on a thread concerning a repair on a newer style E series engine....

I said Briggs had advertised a newer no change oil engine just add.... Some people just shook their head and almost called me a fool, wanting me to supply proof.....

A few others had heard of it also but couldn't find info.... Briggs did have a bulletin out on it and I couldn't find it. Well here it is in black and white and Red and black and white.....

www.briggsandstratton.com/na/en_us/innovations/push-mowers/just-check-and-add-technology.html

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I remember it well, there was a lot of post's on the forum here, wonder why we don't hear about it anymore ..???

https://www.briggsandstratton.com/n...on-expands-just-check-and-add-technology.html

The prognosticators of doom claim this is a bad thing.
I applaud B&S for this.

I know some folks who have done nothing but add anyway.

Russ2251 said:

The prognosticators of doom claim this is a bad thing.
I applaud B&S for this.

I know some folks who have done nothing but add anyway.

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I know some who have NEVER added, and saw the mower out for junk ...... Go figure ??

I've got a sneaking suspicion that the folks at B&S know what they are doing...since 1908.

Russ2251 said:

I've got a sneaking suspicion that the folks at B&S know what they are doing...since 1908.

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Yes they know what they are doing.... It was a huge marketing ploy so people would buy the newer style engines.......

They figured it would last only a few years anyway......

Figure if a engine without changing the oil will last 4 years, how long will it last changing 2 times a year ????

There are no drain plugs on them so you would have to tip the engine over.... Like a Honda mower engine.......

I saw them for sale in a Big Box store, either Home Depot or Menard's.

cpurvis said:

I saw them for sale in a Big Box store, either Home Depot or Menard's.

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Yep and Wally world too........ That's all Briggs makes now is the E series engine.......No more L Heads..........

Some of the bigger Briggs are a commercial series and they have a drain plug.....

The American way....

Run her until she pukes.....
Toss it out in the garbage.....
Go buy a new one and repeat......

I think it's a great idea. Wonder if they come with a drain plug?

Briggs is on to something for sure... Sell more junk engines.....

I would bet most people buy these mowers, add oil when new, and run them until they die anyway.

while I change my engine oil once a year in consumer use, and the color tells me it is a good thing, my next door neighbor is not really good at it. His old mower, now gone should have gone to a Briggs museum.. One year I was changing my engine oil, and I asked would he like the oil in his mower changed. He said that he hadn't ever looked at the oil and the mower was about 10 - 15 years old, sure. I went to drain it and nothing came out. Turned it upside down - nothing came out. Poured oil in and it flowed thru coming out black. Put oil in, ran it, drained it and it came out black. Did this two or three times until it was still an amber color. His mower had been running dry for years. He used it for four or five more years then bought a new one just because he wanted a pushbutton start. Totally amazing.

I suspect these motors are the aluminum bore (Kool Bore) design, plastic camshafts, aluminum bushings. The wrong oil in these engines will destroy the cylinder in short order so providing the correct oil and not letting the consumer change it might actually prolong the life of the motor.

what - I can't use old cooking oil anymore that we have left over from frying the turkey? What's with that? It made the lawn smell nice and homey.

sgkent said:

what - I can't use old cooking oil anymore that we have left over from frying the turkey? What's with that? It made the lawn smell nice and homey.

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ANY oil, even used turkey frying oil, is better than none.

This is not a new idea. I never have to change oil in my old Lawn Boys. But they will outlast this throw-away junk. My 5233 is 53 years old, is used regularly, and runs like new. Sorry if this has a hint of sarcasm.

I just happen to like things that last.

2smoked said:

This is not a new idea. I never have to change oil in my old Lawn Boys. But they will outlast this throw-away junk. My 5233 is 53 years old, is used regularly, and runs like new. Sorry if this has a hint of sarcasm.

I just happen to like things that last.

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You add oil...... In the gas...lol

Personally, I think Briggs is right on. The Disposa-Engine and Disposa-Mower.. 2 and done, what a concept.

Now, my 6 grand Zero Turn better have a drain plug on the engine and IZT transmissions, filters too. For 6 grand, they aren't a 'Disposa-Mower', least in my view.

Of course I'd rather buy a Pred from Hardon Fright than a Briggs motor any day. better motors.