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Bolt to hold deck to engine?

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grass boy

I have a Honda HRX217K5VKAA model, serial number MAGA-2624469. One of the bolts that holds the deck ( I think) to the engine fell off. The bolt screws in from the bottom of the deck and comes out through the engine block. I tried looking at various diagrams to find the part number so I can order another one. I think the part number is 9012-VE0-000, but I am not sure. Can anyone please help? Thank you.


#2

StarTech

StarTech

90102-VE0-000
5/16-24 x 2-3/8 flange head screw.


#3

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grass boy

Thank you. Is this a metric bolt?


#4

StarTech

StarTech

Nope, You apparently wasn't taught the difference between SAE and Metric measuring systems. If it was I would have post a metric size; it is SAE size.

And before you ask how I know definitely the size I personally went out to a HRX217 VKAA here remove the engine bolt and sized it using thread pitch gauge and a die. The mower is sitting in my scrape pile due the customer hitting an iron rod, bending the crankshaft and shattering the mower's plastic body.

If it was a metric it would have been a M8-1.25 x 60.3mm (likely a 60 or 65mm long screw). But your mower is an American assembled unit so they used SAE screw when mounting the engine. If you try installing a M8-1.25 you are just going to screw up the threading of the engine mounting holes just the cat here that ran a M10 up into a 7/16 hole in a $300 crankshaft ruining it.

Now none of my regular screw suppliers supplies anything in flange screws over 2" so you are better off ordering the Honda screws or getting a longer screw and shortening it provided you can fine one.


#5

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grass boy

OK, thank you very much for the info. The reason I asked about metric was my friend and I could not get a SAE ratchet that would fit. We ended up using a metric one to get a bolt out so we could see it. In your last post, you mentioned removing the engine bolt. I looked at a diagram of the engine and it looks like (I think) there are 8 of these bolts. Am I talking about the same bolt that you removed?


#6

StarTech

StarTech

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Screw image from the Net.
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In house image of actual screw.
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As for the socket size it is a 1/2 (13MM).


#7

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grass boy

Thank you for sending all of the info. Sorry I haven't responded sooner. I have a couple of questions. One, the part diagram shows part number 22 (Honda collar bed ?) connecting with part 15. I don't see that on my Honda. Second, part 15 looks like it is going through the center of the engine? The screw image picture looks very much like the bolt that fell out of my mower (even with the mark on the top of the surface; my mark is a j ). I took my bolt to a hardware store yesterday and could not find a match.


#8

StarTech

StarTech

I gave up on local hardware stores for screws years ago. Auto part stores are no better. Rarely they ever had what I needed. I switched over to Fastenal then they closed the local branch so now I am using McMaster-Carr mostly. Of I have to buy in bulk packages but as a business they will get use over time.


#9

G

grass boy

In a previous post you mentioned the mower you took the bolt from is in your scrap pile. Any chance you could sell me a couple of the bolts?
90102-VE0-000
5/16-24 x 2-3/8 flange head screw.


#10

StarTech

StarTech

Sorry I don't not sell over the internet. Shipping is just too ridiculous. Plus I don't need the headaches trying to prove Paypal payments (since our government wants to tax anything $600 in sales per year) even though I was collecting and paying our local sales tax on all sales and report on my quarterly tax filings.


#11

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grass boy

ok, I get the internet thing. Thanks for all of your help. One last question. Can you explain the relationship between part 15 and part 22 in the diagram you sent?


#12

StarTech

StarTech

It is basically a spacer much like ones the recoil and engine shroud spacers to act if you were using shouldered screws to keep from damaging the plastic housing astorque down the screws holding the engine to the deck; otherwise, you risk busting the deck housing.

The engine held on by four screws and all four has these spacers.


#13

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grass boy

ok, I get the internet thing. Thank you for all of the info. One last question: Can you explain the relationship between part 15 and part 22 in the diagram you sent? Thank you.


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