I have a 2005 X2503 60" Dixe Chopper. I purchased it used and have gone through the whole thing. When the motor is running and blades turned off it still turns the blades. They are not at full speed but they are fast enough to sling rocks, remove toes etc...
What I have done...
1) All pulleys are in good shape including the bearings.
2) Belt is the correct one by specs. Not new but still good (no cracks etc...)
3)Tranny belt is new.
4) Belt adjustment is done by pulling the motor back away from the deck. Tranny and deck belt are run off the same pully on bottom of motor. I tightnened belt enough for tranny to work, leaving blade belt extremely loose. It will crank and run with out any issues but when you start to move the mower, I guess the rocking of the deck gets the blades turning and then it just won't stop untill you turn the motor back off.
User manual is not helpful at all. Any one else have this issue or advice on what to try next? Thanks in advance!:thumbsup:
More than likely the belt guides at the engine pulley are out of adjustment. Start with the transmission belt, with the proper belt and tension the idler pulley should be right at or just over 1" away from the frame rail. then with the mower off, engage the blades and look to see if the compression spring at the triangle plate is compress to 1&3/4". Leaving the blades engaged and the engine off adjust the rear belt guides so that they are just OFF the edge of the belt leaning forward to the point they a not touching the pulley and about 1/4 to 3/8" of the 1/2" rod sticking above top edge of belt. this should make the belt swell around the engine pulley when disengaged and prevent the blades turning when the engine is running with the blades not engaged.
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justinlogue5_0
Thanks!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!:thumbsup: One quick question, tranny tensioner you are refering to is the (only ) one that is atached to the long bar that swings kind of like a pendalum with one spring at the top right? And if you were under the mower looking up with the motor at your head, the i" off the frame would be to the left right? Sorry for the dumb question, just making sure I am visulizing every thing correctly. Thanks again!
#5
amberleewilson
I hope your issue had been solved....But now I am facing the same issue.I checked out the spring's compression and it is not compressed to 1&3/4..So do you think this can be the main reason for my problem..Should I compress it to 1&3/4 and check out whether my issue has been solved or not..
#6
justinlogue5_0
Is your more or less than the 1 3/4? My problem got better but has never been completely solved. The way my deck free floats (sort of speek) if kicks the blades in a little when the deck swings to much one way or the other. I can slow down or stop and the blades shut right back off. I have all new belts and every thing is adjusted as directed and it still does this so I think every thing that holds the deck is has just a little wear to it and when you add it all up its just enough to let it swing more than it should which kind of tugs on the belt making the blades turn a little. Now that my mowing season is over I will be checking every thing out again.
well on the threaded rod i put a nut and washer on the other side cause when you disengage the blade it doesnt return to all the way off. the nut and washer will push the idler to the all the way off position if you remove the deck plate you can see the threaded rod attached to the lever and idler pulleys
#10
WISCOPROUD
this prob happens a lot w/ a new belt. Once it gets "worn in" it will stop doing this if you did all the proper adjustments. Nature of the dixie beast because no blade brake. :confused2:
There has to be something wrong with the clutch. That pulley should not turn if the switch is off. Something is causing the pulley to Turn when when the clutch is turned off. Could be debris of some form.
#13
Jaxondaweb
If the electric clutch switch is not on the blades should not turn at all. Either the clutch needs changing or there is some kind of debris that is interfering with the pump pulley and the belt pulley.
2005 X2503 60" Dixie Chopper has a manual blade engage lever not an electric PTO. I have worked on this problem for about 14 years. In conclusion I think the problem has to do with wear in the holes in the deck hanger pin holes allowing the deck to swing from side to side thus changing the tension on the belt. You could try drilling the holes out and putting bigger pins. I also think the engine pulley can wear a grove in it that lets the belt go deeper in the pulley and allow the belt to grab into the pulley. One thing I have found that has help the problem is to put a belt support bracket on the triangle plate pivot post to hold the belt up when disengaged and not let it droop and shorten the lengthen in relation to the pulleys. You can make an L shaped bracket and use a screw type hose clamp to attach it to the pivot post. But make sure it does not hit the belt when engaged. Good Luck
hlw49 is correct. I have seen many triangle plates seeming working but freely but not swinging far enough to stop the blades from turning. pull the triangle plate completely clean and grease and re assemble.
It could also be that the triangle plate is binding on the pivot post from like of grease. I get them in that way all the time. Work the triangle plate up off the post there is nothing to hold it on. Clean the post and bushing hole, grease it good when you put it back on.
I just installed a new belt and had the same problem, I dusted the pulleys and new belt with baby powder and it seems to be back to normal. Good luck to everyone else!
Was working on one X2503 04 today would not turn the belt loose. Like I said before I have been fighting this problem for years. Well today I decided to try something today I had never done. I started the engine and let it run at idle took some fine sand paper and polished the pulley and them took some scotch bright and finished it off put the belt back on and it worked like it should.
