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    Can't Pull Mower Backwards - HRR216VLA to bearing conversion

    Thanks for the update and glad your mower is working well. I doubled sealed mine and seems to help but still have issues from time to time. Just the nature of the beast.
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    Can't Pull Mower Backwards - HRR216VLA to bearing conversion

    BTW, Lowes and HD quit selling Honda mowers. At least in my area.
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    Best Grease for Honda Rear Wheel Drive Components?

    I use what is recommended by the manufacturer and I double seal so no dirt gets in. Double sealing is the trick. I have on occasion tilt the mower on its side remove the seal use a grease needle inject grease.
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    Best Grease for Honda Rear Wheel Drive Components?

    This straight out of the Honda Manual
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    Can't Pull Mower Backwards - HRR216VLA to bearing conversion

    Funny how everyone likes their Honda even with the issues. I read more reviews on the EGO and ones I read with someone coming from a Honda says the same. Honda is a better mower, cuts better, better quality, etc. I wish the HRX217VYA had a better set up on the rear. I will get a HRN when the...
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    Can't Pull Mower Backwards - HRR216VLA to bearing conversion

    Mine is doing fair. I was thinking of buying a new one. HD had a clearance on the HRX217VYA but when I looked at it they have the same set up and I'm not going down that rabbit hole again. The HRN rolls back very easy. I was also thinking about an EGO mower but I think the Honda is better from...
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    Can't Pull Mower Backwards - HRR216VLA to bearing conversion

    Looks like battery mowers are here to stay. Surprised Honda is discontinuing mowers. I wonder if it is gas mowers they are discontinuing and they will be battery only. The prices of Honda mowers are almost double from a year ago.
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    Can't Pull Mower Backwards - HRR216VLA to bearing conversion

    Finally torn down the rear wheel assembly. The oilite brass bushing is great, no wear on the trans. shaft and after a year the pull back is a lot easier. The double seal works but did notice there was no or little grease on the bushing. Will keep this mower for a bit longer.
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    Can't Pull Mower Backwards - HRR216VLA to bearing conversion

    Westman, mine too, these Honda engines will last forever. Also, my unit is getting easier to pull back, still not great. When it cools down around here sometime in December, hopefully sooner, I will take it all apart again for inspection.
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    Can't Pull Mower Backwards - HRR216VLA to bearing conversion

    Hey Briantii, Congrats on the new mower. Was wondering about you. I would jump ship too if I didn't replace the trans. The oilite bushings are doing well. Was thinking about an Ego or Ryobi twin blade. No mess the fuel, fumes, oil, etc. Going to ride this Honda out a few more years. I just think...
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    Can't Pull Mower Backwards - HRR216VLA to bearing conversion

    That is good to know and I am experiencing the same. I only have a few months of mow. Was considering a new mower but when I get through mowing my yard looks so nice. Going to run this mower for as long as I can. Not sure on battery mowers, too expensive and not sure of quality of cut. Hard or...
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    Can't Pull Mower Backwards - HRR216VLA to bearing conversion

    How is everyone's mower doing with mods? Since I did the Oilite Bushing with 2 seals all is well and freeing up at bit. It was a bit stiff at first.
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    Best Grease for Honda Rear Wheel Drive Components?

    Check this thread out about not pulling backwards https://www.lawnmowerforum.com/threads/cant-pull-mower-backwards-hrr216vla-to-bearing-conversion.57255/
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    Can't Pull Mower Backwards - HRR216VLA to bearing conversion

    They do in Australia HRG416 and HRG466, matter of time here
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    Can't Pull Mower Backwards - HRR216VLA to bearing conversion

    Too funny, I wonder when/if Honda is coming out with a battery mower.
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    Can't Pull Mower Backwards - HRR216VLA to bearing conversion

    That number was the one I used that came apart but not that brand. There are no load specs for that bearing. I do understand that the other bearing is slightly larger ID but should be ok. Anyway, I have put too much money in this axle trying different bearings and bushings. I am sticking with...
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    Can't Pull Mower Backwards - HRR216VLA to bearing conversion

    I found a sealed roller bearing with load ratings MR1913-ZRS. Dynamic load .9 kN or 202 lbs, Static load .51 kN or 115 lbs Our mowers are approx. 85 lbs. Not very high load rating but it might work. Does anyone have experience with this?
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    Can't Pull Mower Backwards - HRR216VLA to bearing conversion

    I agree, keep things simple, KISS method. I tried that too before replacing the trans and had no luck.
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    Can't Pull Mower Backwards - HRR216VLA to bearing conversion

    Rich you could have said it better. Keep On Keeping On I have St. Augustine grass and it gets very thick in summer. Not sure if old trans was good are not. It looked and felt good but something was not right. Might have been a slightly bent shaft? BTW my grandmother said the same thing
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    Can't Pull Mower Backwards - HRR216VLA to bearing conversion

    I have tried the bronze bushing and needle bearings and nothing has helped. Today I replaced the transmission with a superseded part # for my mower. When I removed the trans the old one moved smoothly in both directions. I took the top off to see how the fluid was and it was good with no broken...
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    Can't Pull Mower Backwards - HRR216VLA to bearing conversion

    I wonder this too. I think it is too soon to buy one. Waiting a few years and with technology this might look better and hopefully cost will come down. I really like the way the Honda cuts. Never had a mower this great in cut quality.
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    Can't Pull Mower Backwards - HRR216VLA to bearing conversion

    Westman, I mowed today we are still in mowing season now every 5-6 days. It did loosen up after the mow my gauge read 5-6 lbs after mowing. It is still tight but I hope for better days. Ego's are nice and expensive. The main issue I have with battery mowers are the batteries. Ego says a 1000...
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    Can't Pull Mower Backwards - HRR216VLA to bearing conversion

    I just measured mine it was 8-9 lbs with the brass bushings, with the roller bears I got 4-5 lbs, and needle was 5-6 lbs. I am going to mow a few times to see if this loosens ups, if not I am thinking of battery mower. I hate to ditch ICE over electric but seems like a lot less maintenance, not...
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    Can't Pull Mower Backwards - HRR216VLA to bearing conversion

    Another thing with the needle bearing it was much easier to pull back. The roller bearings were the best. Too bad the rollers are for RC toys. I did use 3 on each side could have done 5 but don't think it will make a difference.
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    Can't Pull Mower Backwards - HRR216VLA to bearing conversion

    I installed the Oillite bronze bushings. Now it is very hard to pull back. The wheels don't lock just hard to pull back. I am wondering if this will get better in time. The bronze may wear. When I installed them everything was free and movement was good. Going back to the roller bearing I found...
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    Can't Pull Mower Backwards - HRR216VLA to bearing conversion

    I ordered the Oillite bronze bushings, should get them tomorrow. I think this maybe the best set up also. I had a feeling the needle bearings may damage the shaft. I will double seaI, felt, and O ring. The felt and O ring does keep most dirt/grass out but not perfect. I am frustrated and almost...
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    Can't Pull Mower Backwards - HRR216VLA to bearing conversion

    Installed the needle bearings now my rear wheels lock up at intermittently. Anyone have this issue?
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    Can't Pull Mower Backwards - HRR216VLA to bearing conversion

    The bearing I am using now are BH-812 and the seal is 4913. This is with 3/4 drilled out adjuster. Everything is ready to be installed just need to find the time.
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    Can't Pull Mower Backwards - HRR216VLA to bearing conversion

    The bearings came apart, totally disintegrated. The only thing left was the race. I know why. These bearings are for RC toys and can not stand up to the weight. I ordered needle bearings that have weight specs. Since I drilled out to 3/4 in. there are plenty to choose from. The sealed bearings...
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    Can't Pull Mower Backwards - HRR216VLA to bearing conversion

    UPDATE: I took everything apart today and the the sealed bearings failed. These bearings could not take the weight of the mower. I am very disappointed and had to go back to the stock set up. I had a feeling this could happen since these bearings were very thin. The bearings came apart. The...
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    Can't Pull Mower Backwards - HRR216VLA to bearing conversion

    Check my post #22 for the felt. There is a picture. Where the red is is where the felt goes.
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    Can't Pull Mower Backwards - HRR216VLA to bearing conversion

    Didn't proof read. I rented a puller to remove the flywheel.
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    Can't Pull Mower Backwards - HRR216VLA to bearing conversion

    The engine brake is spring loaded and the pad is almost gone. I did replace it, very easy just need a er to remove the flywheel which I rented at O'reilly's Auto Parts. I also drilled out the front wheels and put in a copper tube to keep the wheels from wobbling.
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    Can't Pull Mower Backwards - HRR216VLA to bearing conversion

    I don't have this model. What model number do you have? Are you needing cable adjustment? I found this https://www.manualslib.com/manual/69345/Honda-Hrc216.html?page=46 Check U-tube there are lots of videos on these mowers, just take them for what they are worth. I have found Western Iowa Tech...
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    Can't Pull Mower Backwards - HRR216VLA to bearing conversion

    This year I have been mowing every 3 days due to all the rain. No issues with the roller bearing set up. The felt set up helps but there are still openings where dirt can get in. I do believe double sealing is the best bet and less expensive as well as easier. I plan on cleaning and re-greasing...
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    Can't Pull Mower Backwards - HRR216VLA to bearing conversion

    https://www.globalindustrial.com/p/buna-n-u-cup-seal-12-id-x-34-od-x-18-height-pack-of-5 This where I saw them. The seals I used I found laying around my junk draws.Sorry for the long delay. I need to check back here more often.
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    Can't Pull Mower Backwards - HRR216VLA to bearing conversion

    If you use the sealed bearing method you will need to drill out the adjuster to 3/4 in and if you look hard enough you can find a 1/2 by 3/4 seals. One other thing about the sealed bearings, now when I first start mowing my rear wheels will lock up only on the first pull back. These bearing...
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    Can't Pull Mower Backwards - HRR216VLA to bearing conversion

    Welcome Pixburd, yes this is a very wide spread issue and thanks to Braintii that started this thread. Other members and I have added to it. I am still mowing. My last mower was 2 weeks ago and still have no issues with my mod. I was about to give up on mower, not anymore. Like most here were...
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    Can't Pull Mower Backwards - HRR216VLA to bearing conversion

    Just a friendly update, still mowing weekly, now just once a week and the sealed bearings are still working like a charm. Here in Houston I mow year round. Yes it does slow down during the winter months but my mower sees yard at least 2 times a month (February). Will continue to update.
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    Can't Pull Mower Backwards - HRR216VLA to bearing conversion

    Finally dry enough to mow and this mower is awesome. Easier to use. Thanks Briantii for starting this thread and thanks for everyone else responding to it. Will keep you posted if anything changes or not.
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    Can't Pull Mower Backwards - HRR216VLA to bearing conversion

    I also used the o ring instead of the felt.
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    Can't Pull Mower Backwards - HRR216VLA to bearing conversion

    Yes I did, with sealed bearings I don't think it would make a difference.
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    HRR216K8VYA - Can't Pull Mower Backwards - FIXED (READ HERE FOR TIPS)

    OK, I tried this and what happens is the pinion gear does not ratchet back so I didn't follow through. To me this will lock up the trans and you will not be able to roll backwards at all. I don't advice doing this.
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    Can't Pull Mower Backwards - HRR216VLA to bearing conversion

    UPDATE: Finally installed the sealed bearings now my initial pull back on cement is 5 lbs and rolling 3.5 lbs. It rolls back without effort it feels the same forward and back. Now I need to mow to test. Also when I first disassembled I noticed grass in the pinion gears so my felt helped but not...
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    Can't Pull Mower Backwards - HRR216VLA to bearing conversion

    drozdgreen, glad we can help, please kept us posted on how it works good or bad.
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    Can't Pull Mower Backwards - HRR216VLA to bearing conversion

    What I have found out is the grease in the bushing wears out and you have no lubrication. There is only one seal. Dirt and grime gets into the bushing. Just take your wheel apart after one season or less and you will find debris in the gear assembly and the bushing is dry. Once you clean...
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    HRR216K8VYA - Can't Pull Mower Backwards - FIXED (READ HERE FOR TIPS)

    The issue I see is the key will not go down in the cavity which might make it worse. When I that this thing apart I will check it out.
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    HRR216K8VYA - Can't Pull Mower Backwards - FIXED (READ HERE FOR TIPS)

    I went to this link and saw something that was interesting and wonder if anyone here has done this: Wheels getting locked Have you ever looked at the back wheels of your Honda self propelled lawnmower while making a turn? Although we expect the left wheel to rotate while turning right, none of...
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    Tecumseh LV195EA (6.5 HP) surging/uneven idle

    I have the same carb and just rebuilt it. I did replace the welch plugs very easy. Look on the internet and find the rebuild procedure. Also use a very thin wire, I used a welders tip cleaning tool to clean out passages. My engine runs better than new now. I also bought a Chinese never worked...
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    Can't Pull Mower Backwards - HRR216VLA to bearing conversion

    Great find Westman, looks like a better mod. Great find! I was looking today for an oil seal that is 1/2 x 11/16 and found none, however I did find 1/2 x 3/4 at work today but only 1 so far. It fits very tight but I think I can make it work. This is an obsolete part and will be looking to find...
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