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    Can't Pull Mower Backwards - HRR216VLA to bearing conversion

    Congrates! I feel the same way. The more I use it the better it gets. Just wish it was a bit quieter. Sorry Briantii, it's all good.
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    Can't Pull Mower Backwards - HRR216VLA to bearing conversion

    It is strange cause Honda has always made somewhat quit engines. I know on my HRR when I replaced the muffler it came with a spark arrestor and it was a bit quieter then I removed it to see and the spark arrestor did make a difference. Just don't want to spend the $30 dollars to find out.
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    Can't Pull Mower Backwards - HRR216VLA to bearing conversion

    Now that I have had the HRN for a month and mowed about 6-8 times I really like this mower. It fells much lighter and easier to maneuver. It cuts the same why and easier to start. How I would describe the two the HRR felt like a heavy solid tank the HRN feels like a car. As for my issues when I...
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    Can't Pull Mower Backwards - HRR216VLA to bearing conversion

    I paid around $70 for a tranny about 2-3 years ago.
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    Can't Pull Mower Backwards - HRR216VLA to bearing conversion

    I replaced the muffler which came with a spark arrestor on the HRR and it was much quieter then took the spark arrestor off to see the difference which it made it louder. The HRN spark arrestor is $27 the HRR spark arrestor is $4. The muffler assembly with spark arrestor for the HRN is $43 and...
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    Can't Pull Mower Backwards - HRR216VLA to bearing conversion

    This is the main reason I bought the HRN, knowing in a few years the HRR will rust out or something big might happen. The HRR is a nice mower, I kinda wish I never sold it but I must look forward. At least I hope the pull backwards is totally solved. For $550 it beat buying an EGO for $700...
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    Can't Pull Mower Backwards - HRR216VLA to bearing conversion

    I have used the HRN for several mows. I'm here in Houston and we have had lots of rain this year. My lawn is thick. This mower so far has done a good job cutting, I feel the same as the HRR. It rolls way much easier especially backwards. Now the downside that I need to get use to. One, the...
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    Can't Pull Mower Backwards - HRR216VLA to bearing conversion

    Did my first mow. Wow, this mower feels so much lighter a I'm sure it's due to less rolling resistance. I was fighting the HRR but mower seems seamless. Cuts the same and another plus is the way you adjust the height just one knob per axle. It seems to start easier, my old mower started very...
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    Can't Pull Mower Backwards - HRR216VLA to bearing conversion

    Unfortunately the newer M240 only comes in an automatic. I going to try to sell the HRR for $100 to yard guys but not holding my breathe.
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    Can't Pull Mower Backwards - HRR216VLA to bearing conversion

    I haven't driven a Tesla, they don't appeal to me and know they are quick. I did buy a M240i xDrive 2 years ago as a track car and toy and this car is very fast, especially for the money. I'm very happy my wife lets me track it. If she knew how fast this thing is she might veto it too. Also...
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    Can't Pull Mower Backwards - HRR216VLA to bearing conversion

    Great review on the HRN and HRX. HD has the HRX on sale about $150 more than the HRN but my needs is a light weight sports car. As for oil you hit it right. The main thing is using synthetic oil that meets Honda specs and changing it once a year or 25 hours. I have used Walmart oil many times in...
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    Can't Pull Mower Backwards - HRR216VLA to bearing conversion

    Westman, Since I did the double seal and oillite bushing things are great. It has loosen up a bit. As for oil I use what Honda recommends 10-30 but I use synthetic oil and change it once a year. Thicker oil might be doing more harm than good since the flow is slowed down. HD has them here too...
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    Can't Pull Mower Backwards - HRR216VLA to bearing conversion

    Thanks for this review. Kind of leaning toward the HRN. Gas mowers are on the way out and a few years from now I bet you won't be able to buy one. The lawn mower shop near me told me they are buy up as many Honda mowers as they can. This was before the recall. They said they had several years of...
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    Can't Pull Mower Backwards - HRR216VLA to bearing conversion

    This good to know. Which model do you like the best. My HD has both and the HRX is on sale, less $100. It is hard to get rid of my old mower. It is working great since the double seal and bronze bushing trick. But I know it won't last another 10 years. Starting to show signs of deck rust but not...
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    Can't Pull Mower Backwards - HRR216VLA to bearing conversion

    Thanks for the update and glad your mower is working well. I doubled sealed mine and seems to help but still have issues from time to time. Just the nature of the beast.
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    Can't Pull Mower Backwards - HRR216VLA to bearing conversion

    BTW, Lowes and HD quit selling Honda mowers. At least in my area.
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    Best Grease for Honda Rear Wheel Drive Components?

    I use what is recommended by the manufacturer and I double seal so no dirt gets in. Double sealing is the trick. I have on occasion tilt the mower on its side remove the seal use a grease needle inject grease.
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    Best Grease for Honda Rear Wheel Drive Components?

    This straight out of the Honda Manual
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    Can't Pull Mower Backwards - HRR216VLA to bearing conversion

    Funny how everyone likes their Honda even with the issues. I read more reviews on the EGO and ones I read with someone coming from a Honda says the same. Honda is a better mower, cuts better, better quality, etc. I wish the HRX217VYA had a better set up on the rear. I will get a HRN when the...
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    Can't Pull Mower Backwards - HRR216VLA to bearing conversion

    Mine is doing fair. I was thinking of buying a new one. HD had a clearance on the HRX217VYA but when I looked at it they have the same set up and I'm not going down that rabbit hole again. The HRN rolls back very easy. I was also thinking about an EGO mower but I think the Honda is better from...
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    Can't Pull Mower Backwards - HRR216VLA to bearing conversion

    Looks like battery mowers are here to stay. Surprised Honda is discontinuing mowers. I wonder if it is gas mowers they are discontinuing and they will be battery only. The prices of Honda mowers are almost double from a year ago.
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    Can't Pull Mower Backwards - HRR216VLA to bearing conversion

    Finally torn down the rear wheel assembly. The oilite brass bushing is great, no wear on the trans. shaft and after a year the pull back is a lot easier. The double seal works but did notice there was no or little grease on the bushing. Will keep this mower for a bit longer.
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    Can't Pull Mower Backwards - HRR216VLA to bearing conversion

    Westman, mine too, these Honda engines will last forever. Also, my unit is getting easier to pull back, still not great. When it cools down around here sometime in December, hopefully sooner, I will take it all apart again for inspection.
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    Can't Pull Mower Backwards - HRR216VLA to bearing conversion

    Hey Briantii, Congrats on the new mower. Was wondering about you. I would jump ship too if I didn't replace the trans. The oilite bushings are doing well. Was thinking about an Ego or Ryobi twin blade. No mess the fuel, fumes, oil, etc. Going to ride this Honda out a few more years. I just think...
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    Can't Pull Mower Backwards - HRR216VLA to bearing conversion

    That is good to know and I am experiencing the same. I only have a few months of mow. Was considering a new mower but when I get through mowing my yard looks so nice. Going to run this mower for as long as I can. Not sure on battery mowers, too expensive and not sure of quality of cut. Hard or...
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    Can't Pull Mower Backwards - HRR216VLA to bearing conversion

    How is everyone's mower doing with mods? Since I did the Oilite Bushing with 2 seals all is well and freeing up at bit. It was a bit stiff at first.
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    Best Grease for Honda Rear Wheel Drive Components?

    Check this thread out about not pulling backwards https://www.lawnmowerforum.com/threads/cant-pull-mower-backwards-hrr216vla-to-bearing-conversion.57255/
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    Can't Pull Mower Backwards - HRR216VLA to bearing conversion

    They do in Australia HRG416 and HRG466, matter of time here
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    Can't Pull Mower Backwards - HRR216VLA to bearing conversion

    Too funny, I wonder when/if Honda is coming out with a battery mower.
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    Can't Pull Mower Backwards - HRR216VLA to bearing conversion

    That number was the one I used that came apart but not that brand. There are no load specs for that bearing. I do understand that the other bearing is slightly larger ID but should be ok. Anyway, I have put too much money in this axle trying different bearings and bushings. I am sticking with...
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    Can't Pull Mower Backwards - HRR216VLA to bearing conversion

    I found a sealed roller bearing with load ratings MR1913-ZRS. Dynamic load .9 kN or 202 lbs, Static load .51 kN or 115 lbs Our mowers are approx. 85 lbs. Not very high load rating but it might work. Does anyone have experience with this?
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    Can't Pull Mower Backwards - HRR216VLA to bearing conversion

    I agree, keep things simple, KISS method. I tried that too before replacing the trans and had no luck.
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    Can't Pull Mower Backwards - HRR216VLA to bearing conversion

    Rich you could have said it better. Keep On Keeping On I have St. Augustine grass and it gets very thick in summer. Not sure if old trans was good are not. It looked and felt good but something was not right. Might have been a slightly bent shaft? BTW my grandmother said the same thing
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    Can't Pull Mower Backwards - HRR216VLA to bearing conversion

    I have tried the bronze bushing and needle bearings and nothing has helped. Today I replaced the transmission with a superseded part # for my mower. When I removed the trans the old one moved smoothly in both directions. I took the top off to see how the fluid was and it was good with no broken...
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    Can't Pull Mower Backwards - HRR216VLA to bearing conversion

    I wonder this too. I think it is too soon to buy one. Waiting a few years and with technology this might look better and hopefully cost will come down. I really like the way the Honda cuts. Never had a mower this great in cut quality.
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    Can't Pull Mower Backwards - HRR216VLA to bearing conversion

    Westman, I mowed today we are still in mowing season now every 5-6 days. It did loosen up after the mow my gauge read 5-6 lbs after mowing. It is still tight but I hope for better days. Ego's are nice and expensive. The main issue I have with battery mowers are the batteries. Ego says a 1000...
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    Can't Pull Mower Backwards - HRR216VLA to bearing conversion

    I just measured mine it was 8-9 lbs with the brass bushings, with the roller bears I got 4-5 lbs, and needle was 5-6 lbs. I am going to mow a few times to see if this loosens ups, if not I am thinking of battery mower. I hate to ditch ICE over electric but seems like a lot less maintenance, not...
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    Can't Pull Mower Backwards - HRR216VLA to bearing conversion

    Another thing with the needle bearing it was much easier to pull back. The roller bearings were the best. Too bad the rollers are for RC toys. I did use 3 on each side could have done 5 but don't think it will make a difference.
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    Can't Pull Mower Backwards - HRR216VLA to bearing conversion

    I installed the Oillite bronze bushings. Now it is very hard to pull back. The wheels don't lock just hard to pull back. I am wondering if this will get better in time. The bronze may wear. When I installed them everything was free and movement was good. Going back to the roller bearing I found...
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    Can't Pull Mower Backwards - HRR216VLA to bearing conversion

    I ordered the Oillite bronze bushings, should get them tomorrow. I think this maybe the best set up also. I had a feeling the needle bearings may damage the shaft. I will double seaI, felt, and O ring. The felt and O ring does keep most dirt/grass out but not perfect. I am frustrated and almost...
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    Can't Pull Mower Backwards - HRR216VLA to bearing conversion

    Installed the needle bearings now my rear wheels lock up at intermittently. Anyone have this issue?
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    Can't Pull Mower Backwards - HRR216VLA to bearing conversion

    The bearing I am using now are BH-812 and the seal is 4913. This is with 3/4 drilled out adjuster. Everything is ready to be installed just need to find the time.
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    Can't Pull Mower Backwards - HRR216VLA to bearing conversion

    The bearings came apart, totally disintegrated. The only thing left was the race. I know why. These bearings are for RC toys and can not stand up to the weight. I ordered needle bearings that have weight specs. Since I drilled out to 3/4 in. there are plenty to choose from. The sealed bearings...
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    Can't Pull Mower Backwards - HRR216VLA to bearing conversion

    UPDATE: I took everything apart today and the the sealed bearings failed. These bearings could not take the weight of the mower. I am very disappointed and had to go back to the stock set up. I had a feeling this could happen since these bearings were very thin. The bearings came apart. The...
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    Can't Pull Mower Backwards - HRR216VLA to bearing conversion

    Check my post #22 for the felt. There is a picture. Where the red is is where the felt goes.
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    Can't Pull Mower Backwards - HRR216VLA to bearing conversion

    Didn't proof read. I rented a puller to remove the flywheel.
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    Can't Pull Mower Backwards - HRR216VLA to bearing conversion

    The engine brake is spring loaded and the pad is almost gone. I did replace it, very easy just need a er to remove the flywheel which I rented at O'reilly's Auto Parts. I also drilled out the front wheels and put in a copper tube to keep the wheels from wobbling.
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    Can't Pull Mower Backwards - HRR216VLA to bearing conversion

    I don't have this model. What model number do you have? Are you needing cable adjustment? I found this https://www.manualslib.com/manual/69345/Honda-Hrc216.html?page=46 Check U-tube there are lots of videos on these mowers, just take them for what they are worth. I have found Western Iowa Tech...
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    Can't Pull Mower Backwards - HRR216VLA to bearing conversion

    This year I have been mowing every 3 days due to all the rain. No issues with the roller bearing set up. The felt set up helps but there are still openings where dirt can get in. I do believe double sealing is the best bet and less expensive as well as easier. I plan on cleaning and re-greasing...
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