Valve Replacement for FA210D-AS17 Motor

[NPC811]

Hi All,
I'm working on a seized FA210D-AS17 motor off a 3-bag bagger which is attached to a 1989 JD 855, the bagger is likely from around the same year. I went to my local JD dealer to purchase a set of new valves and was told that the valves are no longer in stock and have been discontinued. I've searched online and found the part numbers which are 315501-2112A (exhaust) and 12004-2082 (intake), but each site that I located these valves on do not list the above motor as approved. In short, are the valves the same for the newer AS motors? If not, are there any other motors that use similar valves?

Thanks in advance,
NPC811

 

[cpurvis]

If you've identified those numbers as being the correct valves for you engine, I'd order them.

Just to add suspenders to the belted trousers, ask about their return policy.

 

[Scrubcadet10]

FA series engines:
intake: Kawasaki 12004-2065

(Superseded to 315500-2111A) 
exhaust:
Kawasaki 12005-2057

(Superseded to 315501-2112A) 

might look on ebay, all The parts places list the new superseded number N/A

 

[NPC811]

If you've identified those numbers as being the correct valves for you engine, I'd order them.

Just to add suspenders to the belted trousers, ask about their return policy.

Thank you, cpurvis. From what I have found the return policies aren't too favorable.

 

[NPC811]

FA series engines:
intake: Kawasaki 12004-2065

(Superseded to 315500-2111A) 
exhaust:
Kawasaki 12005-2057

(Superseded to 315501-2112A) 

might look on ebay, all The parts places list the new superseded number N/A

Thank you, Scrubcadet10. I will continue to check eBay.

 

[bertsmobile1]

A valve is a valve is a valve
Take your old ones to an auto engine remanufacturer and ask them can they turn down a valve to fit.
Standard practice when you are playing with vintage motorcycles
Just be sure that you tell them which is the intake & exhaust as usually they are different alloys.
Using an exhaust in an inlet is no more of a crime than wasting some money.
Using an inlet in the exhaust will generally fail & destroy the engine.

Down side it will be a bespoke job and so be priced accordingly
Now if you have a mate with a lathe who likes a drop of golden fluid it can be a lot cheaper.

If you go to an engine shop make sure it is a small private independent one and not a "New engines for $ 300" type franchise.
A good mower repair shop should also be able to do the job for you but the same criteria applies.
Big box franchise parts swappers will not be interested.

 

[AVB]

FA series engines:
intake: Kawasaki 12004-2065

(Superseded to 315500-2111A) 
exhaust:
Kawasaki 12005-2057

(Superseded to 315501-2112A) 

might look on ebay, all The parts places list the new superseded number N/A

Are you sure on the supersede direction? My distributor has it the other way around.

 

[Scrubcadet10]

Are you sure on the supersede direction? My distributor has it the other way around.

I saw it ,both ways, when I type in the part number it superseded too, it says it was superseded and shows the 1200x number as the number.
when I typed in the 12004 number it shows the 315500 number...

 

[jp1961]

Hi AVB,

I've refaced the valve seat angle on the exhaust valve in my Honda HR215 mower, on the small lathe I have.

They aren't hardened, carbide insert works fine.

Regards

Jeff

 

[NPC811]

A valve is a valve is a valve
Take your old ones to an auto engine remanufacturer and ask them can they turn down a valve to fit.
Standard practice when you are playing with vintage motorcycles
Just be sure that you tell them which is the intake & exhaust as usually they are different alloys.
Using an exhaust in an inlet is no more of a crime than wasting some money.
Using an inlet in the exhaust will generally fail & destroy the engine.

Down side it will be a bespoke job and so be priced accordingly
Now if you have a mate with a lathe who likes a drop of golden fluid it can be a lot cheaper.

If you go to an engine shop make sure it is a small private independent one and not a "New engines for $ 300" type franchise.
A good mower repair shop should also be able to do the job for you but the same criteria applies.
Big box franchise parts swappers will not be interested.

Thanks bertsmobile1. I don't have a friend with a lathe and I no longer have access to one, but i will go discuss with a engine shop.