Scag or Gravely Residential

Str8up50

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Trying to get some feedback between Gravely ZT XL versus Scag Liberty. Both are within my price range with the Liberty being the most expensive but with their 15% discount brings it down to my price range.
The below is from a Gravely dealer so it's most prob biased. Both seem solid just don't understand as to why Scag is pricey
Gravely ZT XLScag Liberty

Warranty4 Year or 400 hour to anyone5 Year or 750 hour to consumer use only
TransaxlesHydro Gear ZT 2800 fully serviceable Hydro Gear ZT 2800 fully serviceable
MPH7.5 Forward 3.5 Reverse7 forward 5 Reverse
Fuel Capacity2.8 Gal5.5 Gal
Blade SpindleAluminum with Sealed BearingsAluminum with Sealed Bearings
Deck Belt1/2" Kevlar wrapped belt1/2" standard belt
FrameHeavy Duty 1.5 x 3 welded Tubing1" x 3" welded
EngineKaw FR series TwinKaw FR series Twin
Deck11 Ga Fab welded with reinforcements 10 ga Fab Welded
Front Tires11 x 6 x 511 x 4 x 5
Rear Tires20 x 12 x 1020 x 8.5 x 10
Deck Wheels3 Left Right Center 4 Left Right center
Cutting Height1.5 to 4.5 dial to height with foot1.5 to 4.5 foot control
Deck Sizes42" 48" 52" 60"36" 48" 52" 61"
SeatPlush 18in High Back with spring Padded arm restHigh back vinyl plastic no arm rest

Starting at $3999Starting at $4299
Gravely Est. 1916Scag 1983
 

Lawnman48

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I went through the same thing last year. I looked at a few ZTRs along with the Gravely.

I purchased the Scag Liberty Z (w/ blackout package for $100 because YOLO from a local dealer). It's the SZL48-21FR w/ Kawasaki FR651V.

Second to proposing to my wife, this was the best decision I've ever made.

I've been slowly improving my one acre property and the difference coming from a 20 year old green Craftsman has been been jaw-dropping.

The Scag is built like a tank. The controls are simple and refined. The engine is amazing. The cut (and clippings - no mulch plate) is unreal. I've always been a mulch plate guy, but the dealer talked me out of it and said - just try side discharge. This thing will surprise you. After a whole season, I can say he was 100% right. The clippings come out so fine, I rarely notice them. No brown hay the next day. Not even close. I love the deck height adjustment, too. I adjust through the season to keep the grass looking great during all conditions.

Also the striping. No extra attachments or fancy footwork. My mow pattern looks like pro's came in.

Some people asked if I got a service. Nope. Just a Scag.

Happy to answers any specific questions.

It's worth every penny. And the smiles are endless.
 

Str8up50

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Any problems with belt coming off, excess rattling, etc that are commonly complained by Gravely and Hustler mowers. I will say this I footed the hustler raptor deck and it ratted a lot. The Liberty was solid and didn't budge.
 

Lawnman48

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The Scag is tight. Like super tight.

I'm firing it up tomorrow for the first time this season. It feels like Christmas Eve to me.
 

cruzenmike

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Any problems with belt coming off, excess rattling, etc that are commonly complained by Gravely and Hustler mowers. I will say this I footed the hustler raptor deck and it ratted a lot. The Liberty was solid and didn't budge.
If you read any reviews on the Ariens ztrs, especially the Ikon X and XL, there have been many complaints about deck noise and rattling. No offense to Gravely owners out there, but I think that the entry level mowers in these lines have some quality issues.

I had a Cub Cadet years ago that I swear to you cut beautifully, but it had an inherent design flaw that made it probe to throwing the deck belt. This issue was resolved when Cub Cadet moved to the XT line of mowers. While you can still get my same old deck on the XT3 (50" stamped signature series), this version uses a double pulley system so that one belt is contained within the deck to turn the blade pulleys while a separate belt coming off of he PTO is only responsible for spinning the double pulley. This setup is far preferred on mower decks but I have never seen them on ZTRs.

I think that the issue with the Ariens and Gravely is that a combination of he deck hanging system and idler pulley for he deck belt create excessive vibration and thus noise. This same vibration can lead to failures such as premature pulley bearing wear/failure and throwing belts.
 

NorthBama

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I have a toro Z master wish I had a Scag although the Toro has been a good mower
 
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