Extraterristrials

[Bison]

Another thing to add with that vid, the dog doesn't seem to interested it in it as well, that's another tip off that the vid may be hoaxed. Bison, your random cow leg finds would stump me too.

My dog's never made much bones about when i found a dead cow or calf in the field either,..but we don't know how the whole scene has played out before the scene was filmed.
I agree it can be a hoax but why would one go to the trouble to fake it,i don't think there's money in it.

You must've heard about the mutilated cow's they found/find on ranches trough out the country where they find a cow or bull with the udder and genitials neathly removed but otherwise complete?
Whe widlife rangers or vets who are called in to check it out usually blame predators for it cause they don't want to be ridiculed if they mention...aliens.:ashamed:

Well,5 years ago a neighbor found a dead bull in the field with the pecker and scrotum and his A..hole neathly clean cut carved out and removed,but otherwise completely intact(i seen it myself) and it sure as hell wasn't a predator that did it, unless he happened to carry a scalpel with him
When i happen to stumble upon a dead cow or calf on my place it don't take to long before coyotes and crows to find them cause 95% of the time they are completely gutted by the time if find them.
Circling crows are the first sign there's something amiss and wil spot a animal that is about to die from a long way off

 

[Stevie-Ray]

With the number of stars in the solar system it would be foolish to believe only our sun and planet can support life.

There's only one. Billions in the galaxy and even more in the universe.:wink:

Eh, I guess I can believe there's life out there somewhere. I saw a UFO once, reported it too. Like to see more of them.

 

[TxFig]

The real question is not "is there life out there?" (it's almost a certainty).

The real question is "is there INTELLIGENT life out there?" Defined as "one that is self-aware".
This is actually far less certain. Consider that:

• for life to exist, it appears that there must be liquid water

• Water is only in liquid form in the temperature range of 273-373 degrees (Kelvin). This is an extremely small percentage of the temperature ranges that fall in the universe. Even if you restrict this to temperatures of planets, it still a very, VERY narrow window.
  • This means the "Goldilocks zone" (distance from that planet to it's sun) for a planet to orbit it's sun is very, VERY narrow
• Now take this extremely small percentage of planets that exist in the Goldilocks zone and add in the factors that:
  • they have to have enough water
  • they can't have too much water
  • The planet would need a hot, spinning iron core (an electric field is a requirement to shield from excess solar radiation).
  • The planet would need a very circular orbit (turns out, most other solar system's have planets with very elliptical orbits).
• The planet would also need to be stable for a very long period of time. By stable, I mean:
  • The planet would need a large moon to act as a shield from asteroids & comets (see the dinosaurs)
  • It would also need a gas giant planet in the same solar system far enough out to also shield from asteroids/comets (but not so close that it interferes with the earth-planet's orbit)

Now that you've restricted your search to something like 1:1 trillionth of the solar systems out there - you still have to get very, very lucky. After all, life existed on earth for nearly 1.5 billion years before humans came along (earth was perfectly happy to have non-self aware life on it).

Given the sheer volume of space, the answer is "probably yes, but it's very far from a sure thing".
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For fun - if you want to ask the REALLY interesting question --> "can we find another intelligent life?", you get to add in the factors of

• intelligent life has to develop in 2 different locations AT THE SAME TIME
• the intelligent life on BOTH planets have to survive long enough (either naturally, or wiping themselves out). After all, humans have been on this planet for ~100,000 years and it's only been in the last 50 years we've been reaching out into space
• we (at least 1 civilation) has to figure out a way to defeat the immense vastness of space

The answer to this question is: probably not

 

[KennyV]

Not just to be disagreeable... but you need to plug in some closer to infinite numbers ... And not skew conditions to require our situation...
If you do.. You will find there are millions if not billions exactly suited for life... And when it comes to intelligence... We are perhaps NOT so special. :smile:KennyV

 

[TxFig]

Not just to be disagreeable... but you need to plug in some closer to infinite numbers ... And not skew conditions to require our situation...
If you do.. You will find there are millions if not billions exactly suited for life... And when it comes to intelligence... We are perhaps NOT so special. :smile:KennyV

Do you know who Geoff Marcy is?
Hint: He is a planet hunter astronomer in Berkley. Arguably the most famous planet hunter.


Virtually everything I wrote above came from him when I met him 4 years ago....

 

[Bison]

Do you know who Geoff Marcy is?
Hint: He is a planet hunter astronomer in Berkley. Arguably the most famous planet hunter.


Virtually everything I wrote above came from him when I met him 4 years ago....

He must speculate a lot! ,..you know..that Geoff is just looking trough a telescope like evey one else in that field.
Basicly he knows just about Nothing of what goes on in outerspace,..nobody does,..They just THINK they do :tongue:

 

[jmurray01]

Seeing that the frontporch is kinda dead,..let's get some exitement here.

Do you believe there are ET (aliens) out there and here on the planet?

I am sure there are.

I'm living proof they exist :laughing:

 

[Bison]

I'm living proof they exist :laughing:

I wouldn't doubt that!,.. scotts are allways been a rather particular species.:tongue:
The men wear 'skirts' for crying out loud and the only music they seem to have somewhat mastered is blowing on a bag with pipes...(only one tune too for the last 5000 years)

Oh yea,they trow fence posts and stones too and call it a 'sport' :laughing:

 

[RobertBrown]

I wouldn't doubt that!,.. scotts are allways been a rather particular species.:tongue:
The men wear 'skirts' for crying out loud and the only music they seem to have somewhat mastered is blowing on a bag with pipes...(only one tune too for the last 5000 years)

Oh yea,they trow fence posts and stones too and call it a 'sport' :laughing:

Ya know...... now that you mention it, the skirt thing is a tad strange and those bag pipes are nothing but annoying.
What's up with that?

 

[Bison]

Ya know...... now that you mention it, the skirt thing is a tad strange and those bag pipes are nothing but annoying.
What's up with that?

I bet they got the bag pipe idea from trying to blow on dead octopus they found at the beach one day,..prob didn't go that well:laughing:

The skirts is prob needed for air circulation,..can you imagine the smell if they wore pants:wink: