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Mar 21, 2012#1

Bison

Seeing that the frontporch is kinda dead,..let's get some exitement here.

Do you believe there are ET (aliens) out there and here on the planet?

I am sure there are.

Mar 21, 2012#2

Parkmower

The universe is immensely huge. It's ignorant to say we are the only life form. They may or may not have been here but if they have they must think dogs are the leaders seeing all the humans following them around picking up their feces.

Mar 22, 2012#3

Bison

Your government has been dealing in secret with them since the fourties and are still in cahoots with them.The Roswell incident was a cover up,area 51 is bristling with these creatures,there are underground bases all over New Mexico
Eisenhouwer aparently signed a treaty with a alien race called "the grey's".
There are at least 3 diff races here on earth right now,prob as many as 11.
Ever heard of the "Dulce fire fight"(google it)
Can government admits alien technologie operated by the USA-you tube(google it)

Mar 22, 2012#4

F

fastback

If they have been here a million years why are they under ground and we are on top? I would expect it to be the other way around:confused2:

Mar 22, 2012#5

Bison

Maybe they're scared of alligators or spiders:wink:
Might be they can't stand sunlight or like living underground,..who knows?,..would be best to ask them eh :tongue:
You ever wondered what happened to the millions of people that went missing over the years and never were found?
Apparently Eisenhouwer gave them the 'go ahead and pick a few here and there', in exchange for technical alien information.Mebbe we are a source of food for them :licking:

Mar 23, 2012#6

RobertBrown

Bison said:
Maybe they're scared of alligators or spiders:wink:
Might be they can't stand sunlight or like living underground,..

Whoa....that comment calls into question the origins of some of our members here on LMF

Do you think that we may have been invaded or otherwise contaminated?

Apparently Eisenhouwer gave them the 'go ahead and pick a few here and there', in exchange for technical alien information.Mebbe we are a source of food for them

Wasn't he of Dutch ancestory?.......Hmmmm
Coincidence?
I don't think soooooo.....:wink::laughing:

Mar 23, 2012#7

Bison

If he was from Dutch stock he would not have made that awfull deal with ET...We Dutch are civilised:tongue:
The name Eisenhouwer sounds more German or Jewish.

Mar 23, 2012#8

RobertBrown

Bison said:
If he was from Dutch stock he would not have made that awfull deal with ET...We Dutch are civilised:tongue:
The name Eisenhouwer sounds more German or Jewish.

Yes it does. And actually he was of "Pennsylvania dutch" ancestry, whatever that means. Perhaps you would know more about that then I.
I would offer that if these aliens could pluck whomever/whenever, why would they need permission?
Consider that if abducting was necessary to these "aliens", and being polite about it was a priority then there must have been some type of reconciliation.
Why would Eisenhower give them permission, what could he have possibly gotten in return for his countrymen, and why would they trade in the first place. Why not just take what you want.
It doesn't add up to me.

Mar 23, 2012#9

Bison

RobertBrown said:
Yes it does. And actually he was of "Pennsylvania dutch" ancestry, whatever that means. Perhaps you would know more about that then I.
I would offer that if these aliens could pluck whomever/whenever, why would they need permission?
Consider that if abducting was necessary to these "aliens", and being polite about it was a priority then there must have been some type of reconciliation.
Why would Eisenhower give them permission, what could he have possibly gotten in return for his countrymen, and why would they trade in the first place. Why not just take what you want.
It doesn't add up to me.

That ain't dutch anchestry but German/Swish,the dutch is probably misnamed and should be spelled Duits or Deutz.

From what i understand these aliens were/are aparently not infallible ie

not bullet proof) and just sought shelter from whatever calamity.But they had a wealth of technology alien to earth,so a "beneficial" trade was seemed the thing to do...what is a handfull of people worth versus this new techology eh

Military might is what everbody is after,the aliens could provide the means in the form of new metals and maybe computer technology and propulsion technics,who knows,..gov-ment ain't spilling the beans.
People is just a renewable resource

Mar 24, 2012#10

Bison

Did you ever wonder were all that modern computer stuff originates,i mean,...it boggles the mind how complex that stuff is. IMO it takes more than a human brain to invent that :wink:

Mar 24, 2012#11

Grass ala Mowed

Pennsylvania "Dutch" was an American corruption of "Deutsch", the Amish are of german ancestory.

With the number of stars in the solar system it would be foolish to believe only our sun and planet can support life.

As for them living among us, there is my ex-wife.

Mar 24, 2012#12

K

KennyV

I find it ridiculous that any life form would want to have anything to do with the simplistic life found on our planet... There Has to be many far more interesting places to see & inhabitants to discover.

Anyone with the ability to see our treaty history, would Never sign any deals with us... were not very good at keeping our word...:laughing:

I think they would find us far too self-centered, paranoid and superstitious... & likely insignificant. :smile:KennyV

Mar 24, 2012#13

Bison

KennyV said:
I find it ridiculous that any life form would want to have anything to do with the simplistic life found on our planet... There Has to be many far more interesting places to see & inhabitants to discover.Anyone with the ability to see our treaty history, would Never sign any deals with us... were not very good at keeping our word...:laughing:

I think they would find us far too self-centered, paranoid and superstitious... & likely insignificant. :smile:KennyV

They have to start somewere eh, we humans went to the moon first try and thought they were doing good :wink:

thanks for telling me,..i keep that in mind.

BTW the aliens could not have known that up front,..i guess it's to late now eh

I hope you'r speaking for yourself here,cause i ain't like that.:tongue:

Mar 24, 2012#14

Bison

Wanna see an alien?,google..(dead alien found in italy in the mountains)-youtube.
looks pretty real to me,seems like he lost a leg and was gutted.

Other vid,.."Alien captured in brazil"

Mar 24, 2012#15

Walleteater1

Bison said:
Wanna see an alien?,google..(dead alien found in italy in the mountains)-youtube.
looks pretty real to me,seems like he lost a leg and was gutted.

Other vid,.."Alien captured in brazil"

If you want to see them in person go to the nearest Mall. There are lots of people walking around that I don't believe are from this planet.

Mar 25, 2012#16

Bison

Those don't count,..them are imposters.

Mar 25, 2012#17

M

Mower manic

Bison said:
Those don't count,..them are imposters.

Visitors from the planet "Impost" I presume? With permission from Stephen Harper?

Mar 25, 2012#18

Bison

Mower manic said:
Visitors from the planet "Impost" I presume? With permission from Steven Harper?

Mebbe you're confused with Obummer,he seems to like these useless loafers,the way he keeps handing out goodies to them.

Did you look at the vid though?,instead of posting bull Sh!!t

Mar 25, 2012#19

M

Mower manic

Did you look at the vid though?,instead of posting bull Sh!!t

Oh sorry....
I don't know what I was thinking posting a bunch of nonsense on this "extraterrestrial" thread

.
I must have been beside myself.:ashamed:
Yes I saw the video, unfortunately, I was unable to watch the whole thing because of ....... the production value?
After having watched it, I'm convinced of several things, first: WE ARE NOT ALONE.

Do you think I'll be safer if I wear aluminum foil on my head?

Mar 25, 2012#20

K

KennyV

Mower manic said:
Oh sorry....
I don't know what I was thinking posting a bunch of nonsense on this "extraterrestrial" thread .

Do you think I'll be safer if I wear aluminum foil on my head?

Ha ha... Your right ..
There have to be a few 'true believers' to keep these stories circulating...
and the video quality is typically, like something from the 1950's, in spite of the fact that Billions of people are wondering all over with cell phones that will shoot near perfect video...

I think aluminum foil stocks may be up... :smile:KennyV

Mar 25, 2012#21

Parkmower

Walleteater1 said:
If you want to see them in person go to the nearest Mall. There are lots of people walking around that I don't believe are from this planet.

Or a walmart on Saturday.

Mar 25, 2012#22

Walleteater1

People of Walmart - Music Video - YouTube

The truth is out there..............

Mar 26, 2012#23

Bison

KennyV said:
Ha ha... Your right ..
There have to be a few 'true believers' to keep these stories circulating...
and the video quality is typically, like something from the 1950's, in spite of the fact that Billions of people are wondering all over with cell phones that will shoot near perfect video...

I think aluminum foil stocks may be up... :smile:KennyV

you must've watched the wrong one,That vid from italy is clear as glass and pretty detailed.the brazilian one is not bad either.
If i knew how to insert a link i would link it in for ye

Mar 26, 2012#24

M

Mower manic

Bison said:
you must've watched the wrong one,That vid from italy is clear as glass and pretty detailed.the brazilian one is not bad either.
If i knew how to insert a link i would link it in for ye

Is this the video you're talking about?

Real alien gray found dead in Italy at a mountain (Mistero italia 1 del 03 marzo 2011) - YouTube

Mar 26, 2012#25

Bison

Yep,...pretty fella eh.:wink:

Looks pretty real to me.

Mar 27, 2012#26

Walleteater1

That doesn't look like real blood, besides what is the color of a real aliens blood? It could be red or something else. How long was it there?? Why hasn't there been any other insects or animals knawing at it, and in other places like the upper torso, than just where they show you with the camera with the missing limb. How did it get there, fall from the sky or dragged in or carried in an dumped there? Did it walk there on it's own than attcked?
I keep an open mind with Aliens and Sasquatch but this vid get's a:thumbdown:

Mar 27, 2012#27

Bison

Walleteater1 said:
That doesn't look like real blood, besides what is the color of a real aliens blood? It could be red or something else. How long was it there?? Why hasn't there been any other insects or animals knawing at it, and in other places like the upper torso, than just where they show you with the camera with the missing limb. How did it get there, fall from the sky or dragged in or carried in an dumped there? Did it walk there on it's own than attcked?
I keep an open mind with Aliens and Sasquatch but this vid get's a:thumbdown:

Mebbe the sumbitch tastes bad ,who knows?.......would you eat it?

They find dead people too without knowing how they got there,takes sometimes years to find out the how and who.
I doubt if anyone tackled this dead alien job.

I tell you something you prob wont believe but it is the truth.
About 15 years ago in during the summer on a hot day when i was out checking my fence lines i found the lower front leg of a holstein cow laying along the fence. it was clean cut just below the knee,there was no evidence of gnawing or bite marks anywere to be found.It looked fresh and the hoof was still floppy and the skin was still loose and plyable as well.
I asked around the neighborhood if anyone had butchered a holstein or was missing one.The answer was no.
The closest neighbor is 2 miles as the crow flies and the closests dairyfarm is atleast 30 mls away.
A predator like a coyote or wolf usually eat whatever animal they find on the spot or drag pieces a couple yards to a quiet spot but will not carry it for miles and then just abandon it.That stretch of fence also borders a river and across it is a million acre forrrest reserve with no acces other than trough my land from this side.No one lives there.
BTW, there was no flies on this leg and no smell either.

2 years later my Son came home with an other one just like it but from a brown skinned cow ,he found it along the fence line 1/2 ml north of the farm yard.Same deal,clean cut below the knee(no saw marks at all) and in the same condition as the first one.
You go figger how these legs got there,they are to heavy to carry far by a coyote,wolf or eagle

Mar 27, 2012#28

F

fastback

I thought that video was a little questionable too. I find it very hard to believe that they have been here for millions of years and very few have actually had contact. Earth has become a very small place and with not many places to hide. Now don't get me wrong I am not saying they don't exist, but...

Mar 28, 2012#29

Walleteater1

Bison said:
Mebbe the sumbitch tastes bad ,who knows?.......would you eat it?

They find dead people too without knowing how they got there,takes sometimes years to find out the how and who.
I doubt if anyone tackled this dead alien job.

I tell you something you prob wont believe but it is the truth.
About 15 years ago in during the summer on a hot day when i was out checking my fence lines i found the lower front leg of a holstein cow laying along the fence. it was clean cut just below the knee,there was no evidence of gnawing or bite marks anywere to be found.It looked fresh and the hoof was still floppy and the skin was still loose and plyable as well.
I asked around the neighborhood if anyone had butchered a holstein or was missing one.The answer was no.
The closest neighbor is 2 miles as the crow flies and the closests dairyfarm is atleast 30 mls away.
A predator like a coyote or wolf usually eat whatever animal they find on the spot or drag pieces a couple yards to a quiet spot but will not carry it for miles and then just abandon it.That stretch of fence also borders a river and across it is a million acre forrrest reserve with no acces other than trough my land from this side.No one lives there.
BTW, there was no flies on this leg and no smell either.

2 years later my Son came home with an other one just like it but from a brown skinned cow ,he found it along the fence line 1/2 ml north of the farm yard.Same deal,clean cut below the knee(no saw marks at all) and in the same condition as the first one.
You go figger how these legs got there,they are to heavy to carry far by a coyote,wolf or eagle

Another thing to add with that vid, the dog doesn't seem to interested it in it as well, that's another tip off that the vid may be hoaxed.
Bison, your random cow leg finds would stump me too.

Mar 28, 2012#30

BKBrown

Too many Questions ????

How were all the gigantic stones in ancient structures cut so exactly, transported and placed so perfectly, and all without any type of machinery or modern cutting tools ??

Why were things that could only be seen from the sky done when there was supposedly no flight ??

How do ancient structures around the world line up so exactly on grids and magnetic points ??

How were things built with such accuracy and precision that it would be impossible today even with all our equipment and tools ??

:confused2:

:wink:

Mar 28, 2012#31

Bison

Walleteater1 said:
Another thing to add with that vid, the dog doesn't seem to interested it in it as well, that's another tip off that the vid may be hoaxed. Bison, your random cow leg finds would stump me too.

My dog's never made much bones about when i found a dead cow or calf in the field either,..but we don't know how the whole scene has played out before the scene was filmed.
I agree it can be a hoax but why would one go to the trouble to fake it,i don't think there's money in it.

You must've heard about the mutilated cow's they found/find on ranches trough out the country where they find a cow or bull with the udder and genitials neathly removed but otherwise complete?
Whe widlife rangers or vets who are called in to check it out usually blame predators for it cause they don't want to be ridiculed if they mention...aliens.:ashamed:

Well,5 years ago a neighbor found a dead bull in the field with the pecker and scrotum and his A..hole neathly clean cut carved out and removed,but otherwise completely intact(i seen it myself) and it sure as hell wasn't a predator that did it, unless he happened to carry a scalpel with him

When i happen to stumble upon a dead cow or calf on my place it don't take to long before coyotes and crows to find them cause 95% of the time they are completely gutted by the time if find them.
Circling crows are the first sign there's something amiss and wil spot a animal that is about to die from a long way off

Apr 2, 2012#32

S

Stevie-Ray

Grass ala Mowed said:
With the number of stars in the solar system it would be foolish to believe only our sun and planet can support life.

There's only one. Billions in the galaxy and even more in the universe.:wink:

Eh, I guess I can believe there's life out there somewhere. I saw a UFO once, reported it too. Like to see more of them.

Apr 19, 2012#33

TxFig

The real question is not "is there life out there?" (it's almost a certainty).

The real question is "is there INTELLIGENT life out there?" Defined as "one that is self-aware".
This is actually far less certain. Consider that:

for life to exist, it appears that there must be liquid water

Water is only in liquid form in the temperature range of 273-373 degrees (Kelvin). This is an extremely small percentage of the temperature ranges that fall in the universe. Even if you restrict this to temperatures of planets, it still a very, VERY narrow window.
- This means the "Goldilocks zone" (distance from that planet to it's sun) for a planet to orbit it's sun is very, VERY narrow
Now take this extremely small percentage of planets that exist in the Goldilocks zone and add in the factors that:
- they have to have enough water
- they can't have too much water
- The planet would need a hot, spinning iron core (an electric field is a requirement to shield from excess solar radiation).
- The planet would need a very circular orbit (turns out, most other solar system's have planets with very elliptical orbits).
The planet would also need to be stable for a very long period of time. By stable, I mean:
- The planet would need a large moon to act as a shield from asteroids & comets (see the dinosaurs)
- It would also need a gas giant planet in the same solar system far enough out to also shield from asteroids/comets (but not so close that it interferes with the earth-planet's orbit)

Now that you've restricted your search to something like 1:1 trillionth of the solar systems out there - you still have to get very, very lucky. After all, life existed on earth for nearly 1.5 billion years before humans came along (earth was perfectly happy to have non-self aware life on it).

Given the sheer volume of space, the answer is "probably yes, but it's very far from a sure thing".

For fun - if you want to ask the REALLY interesting question --> "can we find another intelligent life?", you get to add in the factors of

intelligent life has to develop in 2 different locations AT THE SAME TIME
the intelligent life on BOTH planets have to survive long enough (either naturally, or wiping themselves out). After all, humans have been on this planet for ~100,000 years and it's only been in the last 50 years we've been reaching out into space
we (at least 1 civilation) has to figure out a way to defeat the immense vastness of space

The answer to this question is: probably not

Apr 19, 2012#34

K

KennyV

Not just to be disagreeable... but you need to plug in some closer to infinite numbers ... And not skew conditions to require our situation...
If you do.. You will find there are millions if not billions exactly suited for life... And when it comes to intelligence... We are perhaps NOT so special. :smile:KennyV

Apr 19, 2012#35

TxFig

KennyV said:
Not just to be disagreeable... but you need to plug in some closer to infinite numbers ... And not skew conditions to require our situation...
If you do.. You will find there are millions if not billions exactly suited for life... And when it comes to intelligence... We are perhaps NOT so special. :smile:KennyV

Do you know who Geoff Marcy is?
Hint: He is a planet hunter astronomer in Berkley. Arguably the most famous planet hunter.

Virtually everything I wrote above came from him when I met him 4 years ago....

Apr 19, 2012#36

Bison

TxFig said:
Do you know who Geoff Marcy is?
Hint: He is a planet hunter astronomer in Berkley. Arguably the most famous planet hunter.

Virtually everything I wrote above came from him when I met him 4 years ago....

He must speculate a lot! ,..you know..that Geoff is just looking trough a telescope like evey one else in that field.
Basicly he knows just about Nothing of what goes on in outerspace,..nobody does,..They just THINK they do :tongue:

Apr 19, 2012#37

jmurray01

Bison said:
Seeing that the frontporch is kinda dead,..let's get some exitement here.

Do you believe there are ET (aliens) out there and here on the planet?

I am sure there are.

I'm living proof they exist :laughing:

Apr 19, 2012#38

Bison

jmurray01 said:
I'm living proof they exist :laughing:

I wouldn't doubt that!,.. scotts are allways been a rather particular species.:tongue:
The men wear 'skirts' for crying out loud and the only music they seem to have somewhat mastered is blowing on a bag with pipes...(only one tune too for the last 5000 years)

Oh yea,they trow fence posts and stones too and call it a 'sport' :laughing:

Apr 21, 2012#39

RobertBrown

Bison said:
I wouldn't doubt that!,.. scotts are allways been a rather particular species.:tongue:
The men wear 'skirts' for crying out loud and the only music they seem to have somewhat mastered is blowing on a bag with pipes...(only one tune too for the last 5000 years)

Oh yea,they trow fence posts and stones too and call it a 'sport' :laughing:

Ya know...... now that you mention it, the skirt thing is a tad strange and those bag pipes are nothing but annoying.
What's up with that?

Apr 21, 2012#40

Bison

RobertBrown said:
Ya know...... now that you mention it, the skirt thing is a tad strange and those bag pipes are nothing but annoying.
What's up with that?

I bet they got the bag pipe idea from trying to blow on dead octopus they found at the beach one day,..prob didn't go that well:laughing:

The skirts is prob needed for air circulation,..can you imagine the smell if they wore pants:wink:

May 2, 2015#41

L

lcbearth1

i just wonder if extraterrestrials are true or just a hoax.

May 2, 2015#42

exotion

lcbearth1 said:
i just wonder if extraterrestrials are true or just a hoax.

Way to revive a thread from 2012 as your first post

May 2, 2015#43

Bison

Of course ET exists,..who the heck did you think build the pyramids and carved out the Sphinx,build Baalbek ,and that Machu Picchu in Peru and numerous other megalithic buildings around the world?...Snowhite and the 7 dwarves!!??
They must've used technology we can only dream about!.

May 2, 2015#44

Bison

exotion said:
Way to revive a thread from 2012 as your first post

Jeez,..is it been that long ago!

Anyway, the guy wants to know,...tell him!:wink:

May 5, 2015#45

L

Lrobby99

Well, if this little blue planet of ours is the only one with life (I hesitate to claim intelligent life) then considering not only this galaxy, but the known universe filled with millions of galaxies, is an incredible waste of space.
As for extraterrestrials here, I'll believe that when I see one. And no, Newt Gingrich does not count.

May 24, 2015#46

S

Stevie-Ray

Lrobby99 said:
As for extraterrestrials here, I'll believe that when I see one. And no, Newt Gingrich does not count.

But Nancy Pelosi does, and she's living proof that there are terrible disgusting creatures, that are NOT of this earth.

May 29, 2015#47

BKBrown

Most politicians (especially demoncrats) these days seem to lack human "common sense". They must be ETs !

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