Craftsman 26 Hp Kohler Professional Courage Trouble

wirespider

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First off, Hi to Everyone...

I have a couple year old Craftsman with a 26 hp Kohler Pro Courage. Last year I let my son, who's now old enough take over the lawn mowing, cut our yards. Even though I changed plugs, oil, filter and blades with him toward the end of mowing season last year to show how to maintenance it, I somehow forgot to tell him about draining the gas and a few other things before he put it away for the winter. Completely my fault as hes just being taught these things.

Well, he told me he wanted to start mowing so he got the tractor out of where we store it and started it. I was in the house but I could here the mower looping (surging) after he had it warmed up. Went out and stopped him and realized what a dumb I was.

I drained all the gas, put fresh in with some antifreeze (for moisture) some good carb injection cleaner and still it surged. Now its only really bad (Idle go's low then high) at mid and low idle. I can hear it some on high idle but as soon as you engage the deck and the governor kicks it up another notch it clears out, so it mows great.

Last night I tore it down to the carb. I cleaned out the top jet, took off the top and sprayed it out good with carb cleaner and unscrewed the solenoid and let the bowl drain. I sprayed carb cleaner it the choke opening and let it drain out the bowl. I fired it up and it still surges.

I tried while it was running two different brands of carburetor cleaner in the carb but two half used cans of carb cleaner later still no luck.

Any ideas? Could the bowl or jets and ports be varnished so bad all that cleaner wouldn't get it? Could it be the float sticking? Any ideas would be GREATLY appreciated as I'm also aware of the fact that maybe something else like a coil could've went bad over the winter?

Oh, I pulled the plugs, they still look almost new. Was going to check the voltage but it would fluctuate with the idle.

Thanks ahead of time.

Wade, in PA...
 

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I drained all the gas, put fresh in with some antifreeze (for moisture) some good carb injection cleaner and still it surged.

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I hope you Did Not actually put in antifreeze....
And if you didn't what did you put in the fuel? It was likely alcohol... That comes in the new gasoline any way... No need to ever add more.
If you didn't remove the float bowl & float, do it and clean the main jet while you are in there... :smile:KennyV
 

wirespider

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lol, guess i should of worded it better. NO I did not put Antifreeze in the fuel... I guess when you forget to drain the gas one time people actually think your capable of putting "Cooling System" Antifreeze in their gas tank :rolleyes: ... Not sure why your against me putting gas line antifreeze/water remover in after my mower sat 4 months drawing moisture into the fuel system...I did ratio it down and put the correct amount in. Tank still had over 2 gallons in it.

Anyhow, thanks for the condescending help. I did come here seeking help. So your free to give it to me as you wish... But seriously though, regular Antifreeze in the gas? :rolleyes:

Will i need a rebuild kit for the bowl removal and cleaning the main?
 

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I don't think KennyV was trying to be condescending, it just the fact that some of us have seen some crazy things over the years. I have found starters fully packed with grease. People loosen the brake bleeders and fill them with grease on there cars. Diesel fuel in the tanks of there weedeaters.
 

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All is good guys :smile: ... I personally would've just asked "what kind of Antifreeze did you use?"... No matter, water under the bridge...
 

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lol, guess i should of worded it better. NO I did not put Antifreeze in the fuel...

... Not sure why your against me putting gas line antifreeze/water remover...i

Anyhow, thanks for the condescending help.

Will i need a rebuild kit for the bowl removal and cleaning the main?

I'm not against you putting it in... I just don't think there is any reason to add More alcohol to your gasoline.. every gallon of gasoline already has at least 12 ounces of alcohol in it for no additional cost... and it will not 'remove' water... it just mixes with it where gasoline will not mix with water...

And like ILENGINE said... I'm not trying to be condescending... I have in fact seen someone do exactly that, they poured anti freeze in their fuel tank... with the idea that the water in the tank would not freeze and cause a problem... I helped drop the tank & clean it out...
(have not seen the grease in the brakes BUT I have over heard folks refer to the bleeders as grease zerks).
You just never know what can happen with well intended folks....

As to the rebuild kit... you most likely will not need it, just use care taking things apart, the gaskets are generally reusable...
A good cleaning should get you running well... :smile:KennyV
 

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Thanks Kenny... I'll do that... It's worth a shot... Would you use strictly carb cleaner to clean it or is there something better?
 

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Any spray carb cleaner will work... an overnight soaking in a can of cleaner is the ultimate... but the spray and some compressed air should get anything out that is a problem... :smile:KennyV
 

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Welcome to LawnMowerForum!

I moved your thread to the Craftsman Forum. :smile:
 

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Any spray carb cleaner will work... an overnight soaking in a can of cleaner is the ultimate... but the spray and some compressed air should get anything out that is a problem... :smile:KennyV

Thanks KennyV... Just got done and it runs great... :smile: I did soak it a few hours in some carb cleaner after I tore it apart. I took it out and proceeded to use some gumout carb cleaner and my blow gun with nozzle from my air compressor. It worked well. ILENGINE was right about how small they are making some of those openings now, especially in the idle circuit (think its called that).

Thanks allot Kenny and also ILENGINE. Your time is very much appreciated! :smile:

Wade...
 
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