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    Can't Pull Mower Backwards - HRR216VLA to bearing conversion

    There is a national stop sale on all Honda HRN and HRX mowers. Apparently Honda got a bad batch of cam shafts that was causing the decompression not to work after a few uses making starting them difficult to impossible. Supposedly they will be back soon. It was a supplier issuer. Also as an...
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    HRR216 walk behind- hard to pull backwards

    Yep, ours has VCM. Not a fan at all. Thankfully there is a disabler now.
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    HRR216 walk behind- hard to pull backwards

    Yeah Sounds like you had the HRX which doesn’t suffer from this problem nearly as bad as these HRR mowers. The HRX states to clean and grease every 2 years and your shop SHOULD have done that. The real issue is that unlike the HRX, Honda failed to put any dust protection on the wheel side of...
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    Can't Pull Mower Backwards - HRR216VLA to bearing conversion

    No apparently they are just exiting the business entirely. They are repurposing the NC plant for Side by sides or something.
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    Can't Pull Mower Backwards - HRR216VLA to bearing conversion

    Honda announced they are discontinuing lawn mowers next September. I told my mom to hang on to my old one. I’m not sure I could do the Toro personal pace and don’t know of any other decent brands out there. Almost tempted to buy a spare Honda before they go away. Loving my HRX as I get more used...
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    HRR216 walk behind- hard to pull backwards

    More difficult to pull backwards is fairly normal. Wheels locking up and tearing up the yard when pulling backwards is not. You are correct that it’s a design flaw.
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    Has Honda fixed the rear wheel bushing problem on push mowers?

    I fought the bushings forever on my HRR216, stock it’d never go more than a few mows without locking up pulling backwards. I’m to report my HRX217 does NOT have this problem. I think the difference is the extra seal.
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    Honda mower issue

    Sounds like a blade brake issue. I’ve seen the little brake pad come off and do this on another brand before. I believe they usually brake the flywheel.
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    Brand new HRX217 takes multiple pulls to start when cold. Is this normal?

    I’ve noticed this with my HRX. My HRR216 with the GVC160 was always one pull but the HRX trends towards two pulls. I do run the carb out of fuel after every mow and noticed last time that turning the fuel back to on a few minutes (rather than seconds) before start allowed me a one pull start...
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    Honda HRR Models: Rear Wheels Locking Up When Pulling Backwards

    Im with you and I must say the HRX with the hydro drive seems way smoother and no issues pulling backwards. The HRN is supposed to have fixes too. If you’re willing to give it one last shot, you can try adding the dust seals to the wheel side of the adjuster. A lot of folks here are reporting...
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    Trickle charger for HRR216 model

    Why not just pull the rope? Hondas usually start pretty easy.
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    Honda GCV 160 Smart Drive Control Lever Stuck

    Typically it attaches to a cable which tilts the transmission and engages the belt. The transmission has a spring which pulls the cable back. Also your cable maybe rusted internally and not moving freely. You may need to Lube or replace it.
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    Honda HRR Models: Rear Wheels Locking Up When Pulling Backwards

    No problem at all. I wasn’t suggesting a new mower as the fix, just that I’ve been down this road a lot. The extra dust seal and new bushings ( since yours have probably been damaged already ) should be realy all you need. I was just sick of messing with mine, especially since on mine I was...
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    Honda HRR Models: Rear Wheels Locking Up When Pulling Backwards

    Its dust in the adjusters. It comes in around the wheel side and gear housing. The design is flawed. Clean them out again and glue / epoxy additional rubber dust seals to the wheel side too of the adjuster. You can also upgrade the bushings from plastic to oilite bronze. Do not use needle...
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    Can't Pull Mower Backwards - HRR216VLA to bearing conversion

    Thank you. The smart $$$ choice would probably be to just to have bought oil lite bearings but then I’d need another new transmission as the shaft wear is what caused the seal to come loose… and well I was just done. I knew it wasn’t right this morning when it stuck pulling backwards to go mow...
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    GCV160 engine boggs down when...

    Have you checked the auto choke? Some bogging when cold is somewhat normal. Once warmed up the choke should open automatically and it shouldn’t happen.
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    Can't Pull Mower Backwards - HRR216VLA to bearing conversion

    Nah. I would have but my local Ace was sold out of all the HRN models and I really wanted the vya with the blade clutch so I can idle the engine after mowing to empty the carb while I run the blower. The vya specifically is somewhat hard to find. My Ace had the hrx with hydro trans and blade...
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    Can't Pull Mower Backwards - HRR216VLA to bearing conversion

    Alright guys. Well… I’m out. Freaking dust seal came off on mine and I’m 100% over messing with it. Picked up a shiny new hrx217hya this afternoon.
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    No oil change?

    I truly wonder if more is spilled because of changes or because the oil sludged up and sent a rod through the block.
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    Rear belt guard on Honda HRR216K9VKA is not like video

    I’d clean the bushings where the drive shaft comes through first… The belts last a really long time normally… the bushings not so much.
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    Standard spark plugs vs. iridium.........

    No, but you clearly missed the point. I was simply pointing out there can be advantages but my conclusion was essentially the same as yours - A WASTE OF MONEY AND NOT WORTH IT IN A MOWER. Hopefully that's clear enough.
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    Can't Pull Mower Backwards - HRR216VLA to bearing conversion

    Heh I'll start with "You were right". With that said at this point I don't care. I'm going to see how long I can run it without pumping money into it. If I feel especially generous I'll just buy a new trans and bushings and go oilite... but really this mower is 10 years old now and it's...
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    Standard spark plugs vs. iridium.........

    Redundancy - mag failures (points wear, etc) and lead fouled spark plugs are fairly common. Both sets are fully tested and functional before flight.
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    Standard spark plugs vs. iridium.........

    Wow that's surprising. I wonder if someone got a batch of the fake NGK's from Amazon / eBay.
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    HRR216VXA not self propelling

    Also check the pinion gears in the rear wheels. If the ratcheting key isn't moving then it won't go anywhere either.
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    Can't Pull Mower Backwards - HRR216VLA to bearing conversion

    Nice! I think your setup is probably the best known at the moment. Thank you for sharing it and your results!
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    Standard spark plugs vs. iridium.........

    I'd say iridium are for sure "better" technically and they will last longer assuming you have no negative factors affecting the plugs like overheating or fouling. With that said - will you EVER realize any real benefits to justify the costs? Probably not. Our airplane has a 5.9 liter 6 cylinder...
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    Can't Pull Mower Backwards - HRR216VLA to bearing conversion

    So I took my needle bearing setup apart this weekend too after 2 years of zero issues. Bad news - the bearings held up fine but I discovered the drive shaft is actually very soft. The needles cold worked the metal on the shaft and mushroomed it out ever so slightly. This made disassembly...
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    German Roaches

    Suspend SC + Bait Stations imho if you’re fighting a bad case of them. In my experience they’re pretty easy to kill compared to spiders.
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    Can't Pull Mower Backwards - HRR216VLA to bearing conversion

    Ive got the hrr216k8vya. It has the ability to disengage the blade and idle so it doesn’t have the engine brake pad deal - it’s built into the clutch assembly for the blade system. I was just saying you may want to look for an adjustment on the engine brake before replacing the assembly.
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    Can't Pull Mower Backwards - HRR216VLA to bearing conversion

    I have the roto-stop clutch version but I’d look to see if you can find an adjustment for the brake.
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    Honda Clutch problems

    I think I’d just take it apart and have a look.
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    Honda Clutch problems

    Maybe try cleaning it out? I assume when you say "clutch" you mean the blade clutch, not the self propelled drive which is what uses the belt. There are a few components to the blade clutch. It's been a long time since I had mine apart, but these are the points I recall. First - make sure all...
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    Honda HRR216K11VKAA Trasnmission Fluid

    It's 10w-30, but I have always replaced mine with ATF because frankly I've chipped teeth on the factory fill and I figure that ATF is probably a better gear oil. Zero chipped teeth with ATF and I have more time using ATF than factory lube. I don't think it's at all critical. "Brown and slippery"...
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    Can't Pull Mower Backwards - HRR216VLA to bearing conversion

    Hey guys - sorry I don't check this forum as much as I should... but... good news. I'm now 1/2 way though season 2 on the "original" needle bearing mod as described in the first post with zero maintenance to the drive system. Still working great.
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    Can't Pull Mower Backwards - HRR216VLA to bearing conversion

    Yeah I thought the grease would work well too... but I think the CORE of the issue is the lack of seals on the drive wheel side because instead of just having a well greased setup, I ended up with a congested packed full of grease AND dirt mess. If we seal it up well enough I suspect even the...
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    Can't Pull Mower Backwards - HRR216VLA to bearing conversion

    Yep, mine does the same.
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    Can't Pull Mower Backwards - HRR216VLA to bearing conversion

    You will always have some drag pulling backwards because of the transmission like you said. Freshly cleaned / greased plastic bushings typically do just fine until they get gunked up - unfortunately with no dust seal on the wheel side they can get gunked up crazy fast. About an hour on my yard...
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    Can't Pull Mower Backwards - HRR216VLA to bearing conversion

    Glad it's been helpful for ya. I made it through my mowing season without needing to touch it. I'm still on the fence if I'll tear it down / re-grease for next year. Civic's ball bearing solution IMHO is the best if you're looking to do it. Robert from Honda took a different job @ Honda as I...
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    Can't Pull Mower Backwards - HRR216VLA to bearing conversion

    Well, we made it!!! It’s officially over a year on my needle bearings and it’s still working great! Truly an HRR216 record :) I haven’t decided if I’m going to open it up and do fresh grease or run it to failure, but the good news is we’re here and it works! Use Civics ball bearing plan if you...
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    Honda Lawnmower - HRR2166VKA (Serial # MZCG- 8042392) - Hole in metal near Oil Dip stick

    New mower time. Yours is 12 years old with a very destroyed engine. Send it to the curb.
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    HRN Smart Drive, How does it work (vary travel speed)?

    You got it exactly right. The belt has tightly fitting guides and is impossible to slip off, plus seems to be setup to work from a wide range of angles. Surprisingly the belts last a really long time too.
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    Can't Pull Mower Backwards - HRR216VLA to bearing conversion

    Thats surprising to hear since the hrx (at least the newer ones) look to actually have dust seals on both sides of the bushing. It SHOULD be better than my HRR. Once you fix this issue though they are pretty decent mowers. Also all brands will have <something > but I agree this one is...
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    Honda push mower bogs down when I engage blades

    Is it just temporary as the blades come up to speed? If so that's normal. If it drags continuously, you may want to look at the blade clutch to see if there are any broken components in there that could be leaving or keeping the brake partially on. Could also have something jammed in the clutch...
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    New Member

    I’m guessing where it’s stored? I keep my fuel and mower in my basement - 65 to 75 F year round.
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    New Member

    Odd. 9 seasons on mine and all I’ve ever done is add stabil to my fuel when I buy it, and turn off the fuel valve to run the carb dry. Never had a carb issue.
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    Odd "hissing" nosie coming from mower

    Nice job!
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    Stihl Kombi system

    I had that problem - you need to adjust the unit on the bottom. The tube isn't ALL the way down into the edger gear box.
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    Honda HRR Models: Rear Wheels Locking Up When Pulling Backwards

    It's nice isn't it? Believe it or not, with the needle bearings and extra dust seal my Honda will roll backwards too - even on grass! It's like a totally different mower. So far almost a full season and it's perfect without touching it. As long as it stays good I'll stick with it... but that...
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    Honda HRR Models: Rear Wheels Locking Up When Pulling Backwards

    That was my "next" fix. Though I'm not sure I can get on board with the personal pace handles so I was looking at the commercial side... this is pretty much what I had in mind as the replacement "in anger" for my consumer Honda. :-) Huge over kill for a < .5 acre lot... but I've spent A LOT of...
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